CapturedNature

See the above posts. Most people do not. Thankfully we've had some H and not much HH.

Yes, thank you. It's one of those subjects that gets brought up every year and "we" has to discuss it.

There is no debate. Some people like to live in a world of alternative facts.

That's an insult to most people who don't like high humidity. You need a larger circle of friends and fewer beers. People like heat, not humidity. We've been over this and over this and even shared polls of people outside of the weather community and you still don't get it.

Two out of three aren't bad. So it's a HHH day? Talk about moving goal posts...

It is an AN month and looks to continue being so. One point though about the map, it's only through 7/7 which was Sunday morning. It doesn't have the past two days of BN readings, particularly the coop stations which tempers some of those anomalies. For myself, through this morning I'm running under 1° AN.

Last summer is not walking through the door. Last summer left the building. Sure it's an AN stretch at peak climo but it doesn't look anything like last summer. Obviously we both won't know until all is said and done but there will be breaks IMHO.

In July? That's unheard of! No one would have predicted that.

Or a Stihl this summer could take care of them. The STEM site's dp's clearly dropped into the 50s before settling into the low 60s so 64 was not the lowest dp all day. https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCTTOLLA21/graph/2019-07-7/2019-07-7/daily

I always make a point of doing stuff outside even when it's really cold. Wind does make it hard but I'll still go out. I enjoy those conditions like you enjoy the HHH conditions. I appreciate both because without the HHH weather, I probably wouldn't appreciate the arctic conditions when they come.

A lot of what you mention is climo. The further north you go the less frequent heat & humidity get. It's all about the wave heights. The next 30 days are peak climo for me, all within a degree though it starts tailing off after the 24th. My long term average is 80/58 right now and peaks at 81/59. I think we're going to average AN but I do agree that we'll see some intrusions of BN like yesterday which is a contrast to last summer. I don't think it will go down as the summer of HHH like last year but rather the summer of CHSH (clear, hot, sometimes humid) lol

I take it you mean BDL? I've yet to hit 90°... I remember after a couple of warm March's you declared it was the new climate regime and that folks should get used to it. 5 of my coldest March's have occurred since then.

Are you still calling for 60 days of mostly 90s and no dewpoints under 60? It definitely looks like an AN stretch heading into peak climo. I don't know if it's as much dread as having a preference. Kind of like having a preference to installing air conditioners in April so you're not doing it on a hot day or choosing to do outdoor chores yesterday as opposed to Saturday. Some people preferred doing them on Saturday and some people preferred Sunday. I don't think the Sunday people "dreaded" Saturday though.

Are you calling for no dewpoints below 60 for the next 60 days?

Peack climo for the next month. Heat and warmth shouldn't surprise anyone.

Someone said none of that reaches south of the pike?

I'll start running when I see a smiling running. Every time I pass one they look like the face of agony. Glad you're enjoying one of the few HHH days we've had.

How many of those do you consider HHH?

Exactly and that was my point. He's claiming that people that like perfect CoC weather moved the goal posts when it's he that has moved the goal posts of HHH.

I think we're on the same page on that. I just think that a top 10 day is different for each season. This morning is definitely not CoC weather...hopefully those that enjoy high dews are outside with A/C's off and absorbing as much sweat as possible.

Everyone can have their interpretation but that term is been around longer than 2014. Here's a public mention of it in 2008: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chamber of Commerce Weather It just means perfect weather to attract people to your location. That changes depending on the season and location, IMHO.

Well, he can speak for himself but he didn't coin the term. I don't think the chamber of commerce in Stowe, VT would want to promote 75° weather day after day in January. Rather, I think it would want winter weather that month. However, it would want 72-75° with low humidity day after day in July.

What are you talking about? Of course it changes. In winter CoC weather is winter weather with clear blue skies and people being able to recreate doing winter things. In the summer it's summer weather without too much humidity. What gave you the idea the the chamber wouldn't want perfect seasonable weather? That's all anyone is ever talking about. Besides, talk about moving goal posts, when did met summer start at the solstice? You also might want to fact check that's been hot since the solstice. I guess having highs in the 60s counts as hot now? Talk about moving the goal posts...

By contrast, suddenly now 87/63 is HHH? HHH for now on was promised. "It's coming" "We warned people" I don't see how seasonally mild/slightly hot max temps in the upper 80s with a dp near 60 and overnight lows below normal translates to HHH. It's slightly AN and you have to admit the oppressive dp's have only appeared for brief windows.

I think that some people forget that there's three ingredients to HHH.