WinterWolf

Lol..zippo here! I don’t see any inverted trough? It’s just echoes training over eastern area’s. That’s not an IVT.

Hoping my more central location helps a tad…but who knows? Hey I picked up 3” this morning…we add it to the total, up to 27.75” on the season.

These things are always tricky…gonna be another now casting situation again most likely. Hoping to get in on some maybe?

Yes, this is my point exactly.

That’s not the point. The point is, in most places(not all), the rates are sufficient to cover the supposed warm roadways from yesterdays temps of 60 degrees. And it’s not even snowing all that hard(moderate in most cases). And That’s all I’m gonna say on this. So Go put your griddle outside and make some pancakes in the snow. Thanks. It wasn’t confusing.

Scott, it’s not about being fine or not. It was about some of these folks trying to say the snow won’t stick to the roads because it was 60 degrees yesterday. And that’s just not true. Not in a lot of places. Maybe where BrianB who thinks he lives in Boynton Beach Fla it’s not sticking to I 95, but it’s sticking in a lot of places to the roads. And roads are being plowed. That’s the point. There’s no issues, roads are fine to travel on, I’m not disputing that at all. Was just pointing out that roads are covered in many places despite the warm temps yesterday.

Yes they will…but that’s not what we’re discussing though. I’m not saying the roads won’t be fine. I’m saying that the snow is sticking to roadways in many places, regardless that it was 60 yesterday.

Ground temps do not matter in sufficient rates..period! The sufficient rates will overcome any warm ground BS. It’s happening in most places currently as we speak.

It’s not minimal temps here. It’s 26-27 degrees. That’s hardly minimal temps. The point is, in a lot of places it’s sticking to everything…as it is here. Roads covered and being plowed. Uptown just doesn’t forecast for the beaches. That’s a silly thing to say that the ground is too warm, cuz it’s clearly not in a lot of places that are in there forecast zones. Perhaps It might have been more accurate to say, the snow won’t be heavy enough to accumulate on the roadways in some areas, especially right along the beaches, if the snowfall rates are lighter.

Ya, be nice to grab some of that here…I’m hoping I’m just east enough to get into that…? Anyway, got about 3” here it looks to be. Only 30 degrees colder now than 24 hrs ago.

That’s gonna bust too…cuz it has 4 minutes to disappear. Your rates aren’t heavy enough. If they were, then that wouldn’t be the case. Snow will accumulate on any surface if it’s snowing hard enough. You being here in this forum as you are, you should know this. Look at October 2011, or October of ‘20. If your rates were heavier, those roads would be snow covered. And your showing an interstate. My road is covered here.

Very nice. Ya we gotta be pushing 3” here, or very close to it.

Lol…folks that still buy into those silly myths are foolish. It blows my mind that NWS(upton) even says that stuff. Especially when you have arctic air spilling in on top of it.

Geez…You gotta move out of that snow hole dammit.

Ya, it’d be nice to sneak into that too…

Lol agreed. But You can do that with a couple globals too to be fair.

Is it actually a Norlun That’s being forecasted? A Norlun is a lil more special of an inverted trough in my mind…don’t know if I’m mistaken in that idea? But is that’s what being forecast? I mean does it really matter what is being forecast…this looks to be a nowcast anyway,

Lmao…oh ya ok. Holy smokes what a pathetic performance again by these supposedly “varsity models.” What gives? Why are they so bad of late?

Yes very true. However, when modeling shows zero precip at 24 hrs out…that’s a pretty bad performance for sure.

You did say that. It looks like that was/is the case. Nice call. Be nice to sneak into whatever comes along later today/tonight?

Yesterday at 12z the GFS had pretty much zero snow here. Euro kept bumping up slightly each run..then doubled from .1 to .2 at 0z 5 hrs ago. NAM and Hrrr had solid snow forecast for here though yesterday.

Looking at radar looks like SWFE. I mean GFS couldn’t see this yesterday? Or the Euro?

What is wrong with modeling this year? Honestly? Why can’t they get a handle on anything At all? This is gonna be another bust by modeling and we’re in the precip And they still can’t get a handle on it? I’ve got close to two inches out there.

Here’s the point…and this is the only thing you need to know. If you are snowing tomorrow, and it’s snowing hard/heavy, it will accumulate no matter if you’re 48 or 58 right now. If you are snowing tomorrow, and it’s crap snow growth, and light rates, then it won’t accumulate. That’s it. That’s really all there is to it when it comes to that.

Ahh Hippy…who knows what this does? Models can’t seem to agree again. Been tough go in a lot of places outside of eastern areas of late, but you’re area has been hit especially hard.