WhitinsvilleWX

27 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

Nope never heard of it. Separate but equal, brown v board of Ed…try patronizing someone else.

Legal precedent can be overturned yes, is it likely to be overturned…almost certainly not.

But maybe you’re right, conservative lawyers have always had a problem with states rights— right?

Just pointing out stare decisis doesn’t always work out.

39 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

I almost didn’t take the bait but couldn’t resist. What USA do you speak of- it’s certainly not the country in which you currently live. Maybe brush up on a few things other than conspiracy theories, like Massachusetts case law for instance— via the Indiana Court of Appeals:

 

39 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

I almost didn’t take the bait but couldn’t resist. What USA do you speak of- it’s certainly not the country in which you currently live. Maybe brush up on a few things other than conspiracy theories, like Massachusetts case law for instance— via the Indiana Court of Appeals:

 

Just because the court made a ruling in 1905, doesn’t mean it was correct. 
Ever heard of Plessy v Ferguson? Can you tell me what that was and what case overturned it? No google cheat.

11 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

in NH the last time the case #s were where they are at today, hospitalizations were 10x higher. 35 hospitalizations as of today, vs 1,000 total cases.

Same in Massachusetts. There’s about 230 in the hospital out of 18,000 beds in the states. Deaths have been flat for 2 months. Right now we’re at about 1000 positives per day and 2 deaths a day on a 7 day average.

Back in April of 2020, the peak back then, there were 2000 positives per day, 4000 in the hospital and 200 deaths a day. Very different place than today.

Yet the hospitalizations and deaths play no part in the CDC metrics for their current guide lines. It’s all cases. Why?

What I wouldn’t give for a couple weeks of sunny 

3 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Business owners all around are making those decisions.  You’re the big boss.  This seems very personal.

I read it all, it’s entertaining.  But I’ll never believe there aren’t some serious amphetamines getting housed in this thread for some to stay so laser focused on this topic from morning to night.  It’s like in college when a friend says take this, it’ll help with your paper and then you write a 19-page introduction paragraph.  It’s the only way to stay so astutely focused on a topic all day every day.

There’s no local sports ball team game on tonight. They got pounded this afternoon. So this is the entertainment tonight. 

1 minute ago, forkyfork said:

said on a board where people stay up til 2 am every night for a week for 4" of snow

Now that’s funny. 

5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Would love to see that. I think you’re getting it confused with potential spreading. And again ptown was an egregious example. 

And the CDC director is from Boston. Of all people she should know what the situation is out there. Maybe she’s sheltered and has no idea. But somebody should have pulled her aside and clued her in.

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

 The idea is vaccinated spread less which is fact, and reduces overall hospitalizations and deaths. P town as we said many times was a unique setup where 10s of thousands of people were together in tightly packed areas for days. There are thousands and thousands who did not get sick or contract it. The CDC is pretty dumb IMO to use that example to make policy. 

Yes. To use the p- town situation to make policy for the whole US is irresponsible. 

Just now, UMB WX said:

so its only ok cherry picking through the data when it fits your rage

Pot, meet kettle 

After 10 seasons, we just cancelled our subscription to the Hanover’s Broadway series. The theater is requiring masks this season so we decided to take a walk. 

4 minutes ago, kdxken said:

How so?

 

A study published June 14 in the journal The Lancet examined the impact of the delta variant in Scotland, where it had become the dominant strain. The researchers found that the risk of hospitalization from COVID-19 was roughly doubled for patients infected with delta, compared with people infected with the alpha variant. 

(Said  Butthead)

Uh,, huhuhuh 

You thought he was serious..

(Said Beavis)

yea, hehehe. 

47 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

The 1950s say hi.  

lol 

Put “people of” and drop the “Ed” and it’s fine. 

44 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Local gas mart and Supercuts employees had masks on today. Not sure it was corporate making them or their own doing (likely the former), but I'm suddenly seeing more of it.

Corporate, guarantee. 

59 minutes ago, weathafella said:

I get the frustration but that’s the way the proverbial cookie crumbles.  Companies make decisions that employees may not like. 

I can deal with stuff that makes sense. This doesn’t. 
And like Taunton said, it’s the metric most of us have issue with. Totally based on cases, period. 

17 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Any you know exactly who I blame for the current predicament you're in.

I know who you blame. But that’s somewhat misguided blame. This new CDC guideabce is based on P-town, almost exclusively. They did it because there were vaxed people in p-town that picked up virus in the nose at levels seen in unvaxed. Never mind the vaxed weren’t symptomatic or had a sniffle. Never mind the hospitalization numbers were a grand total of 7 with no deaths. They blatently used an event that had so many caveats to basically make a federal mandate. They new business would react just to keep lawsuits at bay. You can blame the unvaxed all you want but this was really based on vaxed people getting what amounts to a cold and pushing us toward a zero Covid policy. My company is 80% vaxed. Unvaxed we’re required to wear a mask and do a once a week Covid test. But yea, let’s put masks back on the rest of us 8 hours a day.  It didn’t affect 75% of the rest of the company because they let them sit on their fat ass at home on zoom while the lab workers and managers are at work pushing new drugs through the pipeline that keeps the company a float. 

44 minutes ago, weathafella said:

I am not sure what you are saying.....unless things get catastrophic 1918 style lockdowns are over-and frankly other than public transportation including air and rail and the health care system masks are not required.   

Tell that to the millions of employees who’s company’s imposed mask mandates the last couple of days. Workers across the country are required to wear one. People can choose not to patronize a business if they require it for customers, but for all these employees, myself included, that wear one day in and day out, life isn’t normal. I was talking with a couple of coworkers today, and we do t see how the masking ends now for employees. As long as the CDC metrics for mask recommendations stay where they are and based just on cases, it’ll never end. 50 positives per 100,000 on a weekly average basis is a recipe for forever masking. 
  

49 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

I work in an office 8-9 hours a day and never had to wear a mask.

Good for you. With the exception of the last few weeks, some of us have done it for the last 14 months and counting. 

2 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

  If I'm asked to toss on a mask by the MA Governor again while out and about at a store, restaurant, so be it.  It's brief and not a huge deal.

Most of the people who say they don't mind a mask do not sit in the office all day with their face covered up breathing through that thing with their glasses so fogged they cant see shyte.

When you have to wear one 5 days a week, 8-9 hours a day straight, then we can talk. Because that's where me and my folks are at. And 90% of the rest of the company is sitting home on their couch calling in on zoom.

We had a lot of people back in since the end of May when the order was lifted. Yesterday and today, if you able to count to 20, you can count the number of people I've seen today. And 8 of those are my department and that's only because i have 2 out on vaca.. 

17 minutes ago, UMB WX said:

im sure biden told them to stop tracking. 

Biden cant find a napkin to wipe the drool off his chin.

2 minutes ago, mreaves said:

I was in a training a few years ago that reviewed a hospice scam in Mississippi.  It involved a couple of dirty docs who got kick backs from the hospice service and kept re-upping the hospice care.  I think the total recoupment they were ordered to repay was north of $3 million.  Some of those patients were on "hospice" for nearly 3 years.

I haven’t seen more than 2 years. Most that go that long are dementia patients. 

6 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

 

Edit: also a halt to returning people to the office. Telework back in style again.

Basically a return to April.

We halted the “return to work” initiative that was supposed to be in place by Labor Day. That got pushed off to mid/late October. But with the holidays, it’ll be pushed back until winter, then another surge will occur, and that will get pushed to spring.  So 2 full years at home. 

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Phin after realizing he has the chip.

 

It’s only activated on the second dose 

So at work today, we all sat at our little desks with a mask down around our chins and pulled them up when we got up to get coffee, bathroom, etc. 80 seats on our floor and 10 of us were up there today. Average distance was about 10 feet to our closest other person. 
At lunch 6 of us went to the lunch area on the floor, took our masks off, ate lunch and talked for 45 minutes, got up, through away our trash and put our masks back in to work. 
We all laughed our ass off at how ridiculous it was. And we’re all vaxed 

1 minute ago, losetoa6 said:

I doubt they will around here . I'm in the far NW burbs . Our county is probably the only one in the state of Md that won't mandate masks for kids in school once Sept.  roles around . Definitely happy about that for my youngest--- a junior in HS. I do work a good bit in Baltimore city though so I'm sure there it  will be more masks mandate horseshit .

Only time I ever got yelled at in HD was by some customer that screamed “MASK MASK MASK” at me. 

I’m gonna roast next week in Dallas.  98/78 every day.