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3 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

ABC

Easy as 123

3 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

 

The other thing sounds kinda gross too though. LOL

Don’t knock it till you try it.   Needs to be done with a cheap ass Pilsner like coors or bud. 

47 minutes ago, mreaves said:

When I was a kid, I would go with my dad when he would service HVAC systems. A couple of his customers were bars. That’s what the old men who were there to drink their lunch would have. They called them red eyes. 

We just called it red beer, but I’ve heard them called red eye too. It’s pretty good actually. Coors Light blows but a little tomato juice and some salt on top is pretty good. 
Im not a huge beer drinker. I know what I like. Not a fan of IPAs either. I’ll stick with a Sam lager.

9 minutes ago, Bostonseminole said:

Been watching law and order from season 1, pretty cool watching technology evolution since 1998, I’m up to season 4 and they are amazed at things u can find on the net lol


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I liked the originals. Greevey, Logan, robinette, stone and cragen. 

1 hour ago, kdxken said:

Hawaii has one of the country’s most comprehensive mask mandates and a highly effective vaccine campaign. Despite that, Covid-19 cases on the islands are climbing with a ferocity that’s outstripping every other U.S. state

They have had increasing cases for about 4 weeks. There have been no changes in the number of deaths. In every other spike the deaths have followed 2-3 weeks later. So far, nada. In every instance I can find where vax rates are high, the death numbers are non existent despite increasing cases. They have 185 in the hospital. That’s less than half of what they had in the last spike. 

50 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Masks work.lol

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Lol

36 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Facetious

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I figured

57 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Tomato beer… what is the closest analog here in the states? Something malty?

Coots light mixed with a little tomato juice. Touch of salt on top. Get the mix right, and it’s actually pretty good.

3 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

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That’s not realistic. 

4 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Beer

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Local sports ball team 

16 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

There is a decent chance you already had COVID.

But the vaccine should always be free and readily available to all who want it. It will be just like the flu vaccine. People will get it in some cases because they just don't feel like dealing with Omega 'vid this year. That's why I get the flu vaccine.

Back in the winter there was a week where  I kept smell burnt ashes. Like old wet cigarettes. Hmmm

1 minute ago, PhineasC said:

Federal contractors are not the same thing as Federal employees.

I am not surprised to hear you jumped at the chance to get vaccinated at the first opportunity. I assume you will also be first in line for a booster too.

I was in line as soon as I was eligible and will get a boost too. I don’t want that shyte. 

13 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

The government needs to do more than simply provide better "messaging." They need to say masks are not required for the vaccinated, period.

It's doesn't make sense to most people when the government says, "Vaccines work extremely well and prevent death, but vaccinated people need to mask up to stay safe."

This I can agree with. 

1 minute ago, CCHurricane said:

Higher vaccination rates allow for a verifiable decoupling of cases vs. deaths here in the US and allows for policy to change accordingly. The Media is doing an extremely poor job of communicating that information to the public, and the Provincetown cluster was the perfect example. The story SHOULD have been that because individuals in the group were vaccinated, that mortality was eliminated. Instead the messaging has been focused on the fact that vaccinated individuals are being infected (while ignoring severity of sickness), which only further muddies the water for those who are hesitant to receive the vaccine, or further emboldens anti-vaxxers unscientific and unsubstantiated claims. 

Enjoying the summer here in Boston which has been business as usual for 4 months. No masks, no problem. 

Good post

Just now, Baroclinic Zone said:

Because deaths and hospitalizations will be dropping due to the fact that we know there is a correlation to being vaccinated and there being a low risk of those 2 subsequent effects occurring.

This

Just now, PhineasC said:

You are refusing to see the next logical conclusion that comes from that. If the vaccinated can still spread the virus, how does force-vaxxing the universe end the casedemic?

The more people that are vaxed, the "spread" wont matter. There will be fewer people to actually get infected and fewer and fewer vectors.

4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

From your perspective. 

We opened up this Country in April/May and look what that brought us.  You think that policy works or worked?  I think we rushed things on a National level because the political push to open things up was over-whelming. We're now having to backtrack that policy based up rising cases, and now rising hospitalizations and deaths.  Had it only been cases rising, I think things would be different.  Cases are a leading indicator by a few weeks.  States that have higher vaccination rates are showing that the higher case loads do not lead to a spike in hospitalizations or deaths.  Again, play it conservative for a bit longer to see how things shake out.

If you look at other countries where delta peaked, it took 7-8 weeks from valley to peak then the drop. If it holds here, which I think it will, we should peak around the first week of September, lat week of august. 

8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

I'm not ignoring it at all.  Public policy is trying to stay ahead of the curve by making recommendations more stringent than what may be necessary.  You act as if we're back to March 2020 when we basically couldn't leave our homes unless we were essential workers.  This was from the Federal/State level where we were all shut down.  Now we have sporadic places that feel the need to enact some more stringent measures and the sky is falling down to you.

I actually don't have a huge problem with it, on some base level. I just think the CDC's metric needs to include hospitalizations and deaths. To make a blanket 50 case per week average/100k without the other being a part of any metric for restriction recommendations penalizes areas with low deaths, low hospitalizations, and high vax rates. 

It makes zero sense to have the same recommendations in Massachusetts as compared to Louisiana just because both states are above the same case threshold when the hospital and death metrics are completely 180 degrees different. 

11 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

You really seem to just be stubbornly ignoring the fact that policy is being set on cases, not hospitalizations and deaths. 

I guess the ostrich maneuver is one approach.

Most are following the CDC guidelines, mis-guided as they are. I talked to someone this morning at my work whos in the know so to speak. We did it for a CYA legal thing as much as anything. else. 

Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Deaths are actually down this week in Massachusetts vs last according to 7 day averages 

More evidence that cases are uncoupling. 

10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Right, but haven't we also been hearing that the level of delta virus in the sinuses of the breakthrough cases is like 1,000 times that of alpha?

There are a large number of vaccinated cases being recorded by other countries. This isn't a smoking gun that the vaccinated are causing a lot of spread, but it leans that way.

That was from the P-town data. those people were packed together like sardines. And from what I've been able to hear, the amount in the nose went down really fast in the vaxed (the viral particles didn't infect the cells of the airway, that's what that data tells me). Doenst mean much if its "in the nose". It needs to actively infect the airway to be readily transmissible over time. 

18 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

I think it's based on more than P-town. There is ample evidence from overseas that breakthrough cases are way undercounted in this country.

Breakthrough is different than being able to transmit at any significant level 

34 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

 

That "cant prevent transmission" is garbage science. Its based on the P-town event. Which, as has been discussed, shouldn't be used to make nationwide policy. Most vaxed people don't have enough viral load to spread it anywhere. However, that last sentence in her statement is what's being used to push more people to get vaxed through pressure. But as long as there are unvaxed people, the vaxed can spread it (BS), so we all have to wear the face diapers and undergo restrictions. What they are doing is using the restrictions on the vaxd so we'll put pressure on the rest of the population to get a shot so we can get out of the face diapers. 

As long as the CDC keeps that narrative and the metrics of cases instead of deaths and hospitalizations, we'll be masked in certain locations forever. It's all sick game at this point. 

27 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

Nope never heard of it. Separate but equal, brown v board of Ed…try patronizing someone else.

Legal precedent can be overturned yes, is it likely to be overturned…almost certainly not.

But maybe you’re right, conservative lawyers have always had a problem with states rights— right?

Just pointing out stare decisis doesn’t always work out.

39 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

I almost didn’t take the bait but couldn’t resist. What USA do you speak of- it’s certainly not the country in which you currently live. Maybe brush up on a few things other than conspiracy theories, like Massachusetts case law for instance— via the Indiana Court of Appeals:

 

39 minutes ago, Supernovice said:

I almost didn’t take the bait but couldn’t resist. What USA do you speak of- it’s certainly not the country in which you currently live. Maybe brush up on a few things other than conspiracy theories, like Massachusetts case law for instance— via the Indiana Court of Appeals:

 

Just because the court made a ruling in 1905, doesn’t mean it was correct. 
Ever heard of Plessy v Ferguson? Can you tell me what that was and what case overturned it? No google cheat.