WhitinsvilleWX

24 minutes ago, losetoa6 said:

I buy $ 30,000 a year in electrical supplies at Home Depot.  Im done with masks ....If the local HD stores around here enforce it I won't comply . They will have to forcibly remove me if it comes to that . I rather not shop at Lowes ( Lowe's doesn't carry the top best brand in electrical-*Leviton )...but if it comes to it I'll just have to go to Lowes and shop more at my local electrical supply houses as well . Time to push back.  Enough push back against these mandates/ restrictions  ...it'll backfire.  

 My local HD never enforced it last time. I’ve already quit my local service station over it. 

2 minutes ago, Tolland Death Band said:

People in hospice don’t spend 2 years there

That’s not true. Hospice care doesn’t mean you’re in a facility. It can get extended for several 6 month intervals. 

7 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

We have never collected data on the flu or other respiratory diseases to this extent. The flu death numbers from the CDC each year a total guess, by their own admission. When an old person infected with the flu dies of heart failure or COPD, it isn't called "death from flu" on the stats. That concept is unique to COVID.

No doubt Delta is super transmissible, which is why it will burn out quickly and many millions of Americans have already caught it and recovered (if they even realized they had it). That includes many vaccinated people too!

We’ve never done widespread testing for the flu using PCR like this. Ever 

24 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Who’d have thunk a summer banter thread in this sub-forum would ever see over 5.1k  replies?!  On par or more than a HECS thread.  And not one single mention of a dew point.

We could talk about local sportsball teams 5 game slide.

1 hour ago, Lava Rock said:

Back to masks nationwide in order to get into Home Depot. Just another couple months away from the 1st lockdown. Don't say it can't happen. Sick of this crap.

The home depot around here never enforced it the last time. But ill be going to lowes. they dont require customers wear one. Ill be patronizing businesses that dont require it.

20 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Looks like Lambda will be next in the doom hype chute after Delta fizzles out.

 

Delta +

34 minutes ago, RedSky said:

It would be a big letdown if a truly fear inducing strain pops up and they don't give it the moniker the Andromeda strain

Ive seen that movie at least 7 times. At sone point we’ll all have to go in a sterilizing room and get all our hair and top layer of skin burned off sans the hood they got to wear. 

Baker just mandated all employees and contractors at long term care facilities have to be fully vaxed by October 10th. 

5 minutes ago, klw said:

I enjoy the subscriptions when I have them but my last commute it was frequently blocked my mountains on my commute so I cancelled.  When I signed up again for 3 months free I thought it was for the car but it was just a streaming account which I just don't use often enough to justify the expense.  Now I have a new commute I may sign up for the car again when they send me a new offer for that as I think it should be better reception on this route.  Plus my regular car antenna is not working well at the moment- I think a mouse chewed the connecting wire- so I am driving 168 miles a day with CDs as the primary listening.

I have it in both vehicles and a house account on my Russound/Casa Tunes system.

2 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Penis museum entrance.   It wasn’t open yet when I took it 

You have to go. We need a field report

1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Penis museum entrance.   It wasn’t open yet when I took it 

Lolololol 

47 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Hey now 

You make it?

14 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Why?

if they are getting work done and meeting deliverables with qualitative results what difference does it make where they do it 

Depends on what it is. A scientific enterprise thrives on daily interaction and face to face working together. We’ve found it very difficult to build a team environment thats needed to do good science and drug discovery on zoom. 

3 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said:

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1422670464321822723?s=20

Lol. Never ends

10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

The issue with the logic here is that making people wear masks and socially-distance at work actually encourages teleworking, so that offsets any supposed gain to be had in reducing teleworking by mandating vaccines. I don't think people are not coming back to work due to vaccine status. I am not seeing that.

Yes. The company wants them back, but the policies are just making them stay home. 
I could work from home at least 2days a week, maybe 3.  It my lab folks are there everyday. I’d be a pretty shitty boss if I just sat on my butt at home because I didnt want to wear a mask but made them come in since they can’t do lab work from their couch. 

3 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Wait, your company has workers, even remote admin, accounting or HR functions, that haven’t returned to the office to be in those roles?   That’s still a thing?

Lol. Dude, we have PhD scientists that manage projects and people who I haven’t seen in person in 17 months. We have a campus of 3000. On any given day there MIGHT  be 200 scattered across 10 buildings across eastern Massachusetts. 

7 minutes ago, QCD17 said:

 Then you also have to figure that a lot of people are looking for reasons to continue their work from home routine as well.

Ding ding, we have a winner. 
I know some where I work that haven't  been in the building since March 2020. And with mandates today, they’re not likely back until 2022. That’s a solid 2 years sitting at home. Why would they want to come back.

But yea, we’ll have a vax mandate by the end of the year. That’s the only way we’ll get out of masks. I’m sure that’s the angle. 

4 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

You seem to enjoy hygiene theater. I guess it makes sense to you for vaccinated people to mask up around each other indefinitely?

It won’t affect me much outside of work unless I have to fly. 
I won’t wear one anymore. 

6 minutes ago, fujiwara79 said:

I still find it hilarious how people thought masks were never coming back.  It was always the easiest thing to bring back.  i thought they'd come back in the fall, but this was even quicker than i expected.

the cdc guidance from may 13th will go down in infamy as one of the worst messaging blunders in history.  it'll be taught in schools decades from now as a case study in what you shouldn't do.

most non-influenza pandemics last 3-5 years...it'll be best for everyone's collective psyche to accept that reality.  maybe invest your Dogecoin in some innovative mask companies.

How many hours a day do you wear yours?

6 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Certainly looks that way at first glance! Some really bad messaging out there right now if the goal is to convince skeptics to get the vaccine and reassure those who already got it that they made a good decision.

Well, I don’t REALLY think that’s what they’re saying. It’s just poor optics if they want people to take their vax. 

I think my company is setting us up for a vax mandate. The way the email was worded, it makes me think that the way out of masks at work is to mandate a vax.
They’ve been touting a September return to work. The email today said that was being backed off until late October or November. With the holidays, that will get backed  off till after the first of the year. No office people will come back to work en masse if they have to wear a mask after sitting on their a$$ at home for the last 18 months on Zoom.

In betting that the place will be a tomb tomorrow. We had a few non lab people back, but after today, they’ll be back on zoom. 

8 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Isn’t a private company like @WhitinsvilleWX‘s telling their employees to mask up different though?  There’s no gov’t mandate to mask up in his state or his city.

That strikes me to be more about the legal atmosphere in this country where people can sue for anything they want…. not necessarily the gov’t using a private company.  Probably with a side of corporate virtue signaling but it strikes me more as something coming from the legal department.

Ah, it’s both. What Phin said above is basically correct. Pharma takes govt money in the form of Medicare and Medicaid. If they don’t go along, we’ll…

I just find it funny that Pfizer going to mask mandate ms for vaxed office employees is tantamount to admitting their vax doesnt work. 

11 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

The government is using private industry to enforce rules they legally/constitutionally cannot.

 

Yea, that’s the worst part.

9 minutes ago, correnjim1 said:

people have to say No....that's it no more lockdowns no more masks

Easier said than done. They pay my salary so it’s either suck it up or quit. All the local pharma put mandates back on. Merck and Astra Zeneca put there’s back on yesterday. Bristol Myers Squib and Pfizer put it back on last Thursday. I was just waiting for ours. I figured it would be yesterday honestly. 

Pfizer, lol. Of all companies to put an office mask mandate back on vaxed people. The irony.

4 minutes ago, correnjim1 said:

here we go again.....this is never going to end

What pisses me off even worse is Massachusetts and Cambridge isn’t under a mandate. Baker said he’s comfortable where we are with our vax rates, low hospitalizations, and low death numbers. Yet a private company is kowtowing to a CDC recommendation. 
Multinational corporations are letting the government tell them how to run their business.