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What’s that elevation?


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Sloppy inch at best at the base, but much more over 2500’


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Only has MVL

You seem to know the models well..why is everything painting rain this weekend in northern vt with 850s well below freezing? Are they missing elevation?


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Yeah and that guy often seems to be a bit under what I get.  He’s next to the Public Safety building on RT 100 which often seems just slightly warmer in marginal events. I just didn’t bother measuring the “new” and was just pacing it by what was on the ground.
That first day we had 4” slop that melted back to 2” before the upslope started.  There was around 8” in my yard at the end of it all yesterday evening.  Could’ve had 10-11” if measuring and clearing I’d assume.

Is that a 50 spot over Mansfield and jay on the gfs? One of the better fantasy clowns of the season. Not gonna happen, but with the highs and lows of this season, nothing would surprise me. I don’t think we’ve seen our last melt out to snorkel day.


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Who can help me with a little model education? Why would the cmc be painting rain in northern vt. with the 534 south of Rutland? I get too far away to believe anything, but some trends have been painting a snowier weekend.




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Epic

Did someone say take ‘em up? Nice call.


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21” for Stowe at 4pm.
Documented and measured.
8” yesterday morning.

1” yesterday 4pm.

9” this morning.

3” at 4pm today (rounded up to make up for a couple rounded down earlier).

 
8 + 1 + 9 + 3 = 21”.
Due diligence in accurate totals, ha.

Makes my “about 20” look like a second grader did it. We’re probably way over that now, but it’s tough to measure with the wind. I really want to see if I can put a stake in the woods behind my house this summer to get accurate measurements next winter.


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20” down but blown all over the place. Dumping snow. Might get to 30 by tnrw after nearly bare ground 2 days ago. Looks like long range gfs trying to revive ski season and keep things going into April. Feast or famine this year.


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Yeah I’m with ya. Some folks are going to get disappointed tomorrow but most seem to understand the ski areas want to run the lifts for customers.  If they can they will and if they say they can’t, it’s not due to laziness .
Let it dump and blow all tomorrow then enjoy it Tuesday.

At least it’ll be windy at all elevations. People at jay go nuts when the freezer is on hold and it’s just breezy at the base. They have no idea it’s gusting to 60 at tower 16.


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For sure. We’re prepared with skins and are here through Tuesday. Just nice to be back in winter: cold, windy, snowy, yore 
 

You might already know this, but North glade and dog patch tnrw when it’s this windy. Snorkel stuff in there.


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What do you think for winds tomorrow.  Heading there tonight

No upper mountain lifts on tramside…nw over 30 usually takes out the Bonnie too…maybe jet? Could also take the metro and hike up lower river quai to hit some lower mountain glades off goat. Tuesday will be the day.


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This looks promising for upslope.

That’s a nice spot for the red dot


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I'm looking to make a trip to the Greens either M or Tu.  I'm guessing everyone and their mother will be on the hill Tuesday, but I'm worried if I go Monday there'll be wind holds.

Jay will likely have nothing on tramside. Might get the jet running, but even the Bonnie could be on hold with strong nw flow.


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The positive snow depth maps will be much better in this one and it looks like a repeat of some of the early season snows that pounded the elevations, while white rain and 4:1 slop falls under 1KFT here in town.

It will go a long way right now. The backside looks promising. But it looks like the same cycle midweek, warm up, rain, and hope for something positive on the back end next weekend. Mon/tues might be good. This year has featured some pretty impressive wipe outs like Christmas week and this past week. Just decimated the base.


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It looks grim.  I’m a positive person but think setting expectations is a valued trait.  The next 5 days are going to hurt.  It will snow again, but is the damage already done to the ski season up north?
Snowmaking trails last a long time, but the naturals are in trouble.

We are looking at almost 150 hours straight without dipping much below freezing. Throw in some rain and the fact that it’s March, and I agree that grim is a good term. That’s a lot of melting without solid refreeze nights. Butttt, there has been steady improvement in some of these storms over the last few days. I think it’s going to be a pick your spots kind of finish. I bet we score some real good days in the next 3 weeks, but they’ll be vastly outnumbered by the meltdown days. There’s been a few runs here and there where the 10th gets us pretty good and then sits in a good spot. Pro navy best hope for an extended good period. Just have to hope you can get out after one of snows.


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We were at Copper/A Basin last week. Skiing was fantastic.

Hitting both of those and winter park next week. Out of copper and a-basin, which do you think has better trees and what areas to hit? I’m only at each for a couple days.


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Fwiw ... family member in NJ has lawn greening with crocuses and tulips coming up - about 3 weeks ahead of schedule since she's lived there over nearly 20 years ( anecdotally).

Must be pretty far south because my NJ home currently has a 3” pack and no grass showing; been that way for almost 2 weeks, though I think it’s on life support by tomorrow.


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Unexpected mood flakes..started the day at 5.




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Another fine morning…








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Zero below zero days, truly historic warmth.  Almost no big lakes have any ice, Champlain, George, all the Great Lakes.  
 
According to the LGA records show that the Lake also didn’t freeze completely in 1919, 1991, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2018, kinda 2022 (it thawed in February and froze again), and this year.  Which when you look at the trend... it’s obvious

Looks like winter to me.




I know what your agenda is, but my comment wasn’t that it hasn’t been +11 this month, it was that it has felt like deep winter this weekend. it hasn’t stopped snowing more than a few hours in the last 3 days, we’ll be pushing two feet in that stretch by morning, temps have been in the teens during the day and barely above zero at night with a steady wind and chills below zero. To me, that is “obviously” a deep winter feel. I’ve enjoyed it.


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Looks like another one of those ok winters in higher elevations, but shitty in the lower elevations. I mean even CT has a deeper pack than Mitch. 

Ok is a good way to put it. Some excellent stretches, but less refreshes it seems than the past few years when it gets bad. It’s been non stop snow the past few days, but about a 10 day drought before. The Christmas torch was pretty epic this year too.


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To me, it’s actually been an incredible winter given the departures.  I don’t think most folks understand what sustained +8 is for a departure.
February currently sits at +11.2 at MVL.  People die in July at +11.2 and here we are running snow cover daily at a “departure torch.”

You would never know it’s +11.2 if you were out this weekend. Deep winter and biting cold.


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We had about an inch and it shut off, looks like it’s right along the border from west to east.

1.25” in last hour. Gonna be another stellar morning to get out early. Looks like heavier band coming through between 11-1 on 3k and swinging down toward Stowe for a bit.


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Dumping snow again..just measured 3.5” since last chair.


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It wasn’t the deepest for me, ha.  Just some of the youngsters.  But there’s just a certain feel when the snow is like washing over your head on every turn.  Could get 100” but if it’s dense snow it doesn’t feel the same as 20+ blower.
Wildest part was it even really snow a ridge over today.  Sterling Ridge was in the sun today.  Mansfield was getting smoked in the low topped fluff.

Yep, at one point it was sunny on stateside and snowing on tramside. Real high ratio stuff. I think you guys might have beat up here during this cycle. Either way, snowed almost straight through last chair today.

Early march 2020 beats it though. 36” down liftline after it opens midday. Best I remember in the past 5.


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