SnoSki14 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 This is why I didn't want to see the EURO, I know it wouldn't be good. All I see is dry and seasonable for the next 10 days, well at least after Wednesday. The gfs pretty much agrees with the Euro, but I guess anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 fwiw, the 06Z GFS looks all messed up in its surface reflection. At H162, I would have expected some kind of weak low pressure to develop at the surface right around our area... and, at the very least, some reflection of precipitation given the incoming vorticity advection with the upper low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 This is why I didn't want to see the EURO, I know it wouldn't be good. All I see is dry and seasonable for the next 10 days, well at least after Wednesday. The gfs pretty much agrees with the Euro, but I guess anything can happen. Give it a run or two and a different solution will likely pop. We saw this similar dance with the GFS and EURO with regard to last weekend's cold shot locking in...EURO said no locking, GFS said yes, EURO caves to GFS for the most part and then GFS and EURO both trend back to a different solution. The chaos will settle itself down a bit after this storm comes through. It might not be tons of snow for all but I think we'll have two shots in the coming week (Sunday and midweek next week) given the pattern in place and where things have been hinting as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 This is why I didn't want to see the EURO, I know it wouldn't be good. All I see is dry and seasonable for the next 10 days, well at least after Wednesday. The gfs pretty much agrees with the Euro, but I guess anything can happen. The GFS is seasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 It looks like as of now the euro has caved in to the gfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The GFS is seasonable? It's seasonable to slightly below normal from what I see, highs are generally in the low 40s, lows in the mid to upper 20s, fairly typical for December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 It's seasonable to slightly below normal from what I see, highs are generally in the low 40s, lows in the mid to upper 20s, fairly typical for December. in philly, low 40s for highs would be about 7 degrees below normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 This is why I didn't want to see the EURO, I know it wouldn't be good. All I see is dry and seasonable for the next 10 days, well at least after Wednesday. The gfs pretty much agrees with the Euro, but I guess anything can happen. Well then maybe you need some glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 in philly, low 40s for highs would be about 7 degrees below normal To be fair....low 40's while below average isn't terribly unseasonable for early december. (cue Chris L with December 89 references) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 To be fair....low 40's while below average isn't terribly unseasonable for early december. (cue Chris L with December 89 references) It's going to be colder than that, possibly significantly so. Both the EURO and GFS are showing highs in the mid-30s or lower for an extended period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 No, not low to mid 30s for highs. Most of the cold air is locked in Western Canada, we just get occasional chunks of it spilling into the east, we would need more of an arctic intrusion to see highs that low for December, these moderated cold air masses just don't do it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 No, not low to mid 30s for highs. Most of the cold air is locked in Western Canada, we just get occasional chunks of it spilling into the east, we would need more of an arctic intrusion to see highs that low for December, these moderated cold air masses just don't do it anymore. Wrong again. http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample.shtml?text=Knyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Wrong again. http://wxweb.meteost...shtml?text=Knyc Actually no I'm right, the only time I see highs in the low to mid 30s is beyond Day 12, which on the gfs doesn't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 No, not low to mid 30s for highs. Most of the cold air is locked in Western Canada, we just get occasional chunks of it spilling into the east, we would need more of an arctic intrusion to see highs that low for December, these moderated cold air masses just don't do it anymore. I think this map would equate to a little more than "just seasonable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 where is judge colin on this matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 where is judge colin on this matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 where is judge colin on this matter? there isn't anything that screams exciting to me for the forseeable future...knew the 12z euro yesterday was way too extreme. looks pretty boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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