ILoveWinter

2 minutes ago, weathermedic said:

Albany is 50 with drizzle. Boston is 57 and Provincetown is 55.

True tho DC and to some extent Philly will be baking starting tomorrow for the next several days while we stay cloudy in the 60s.

Cloudy and a high of 50 today, 56 in Philly and sunny and 80 in DC, heck of a back door!

2 minutes ago, nycwinter said:

wind is very gusty...

Yes extremely gusty windswept rain in Manhattan right now

8 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

I think the problem with April is that while warmer than March overall, our expectations are higher for April than for March.  I also think that the earlier start to daylight savings puts us mentally in Spring mode sooner than we should be. Anyone with kids in outdoor sports knows that we all freeze our a**es off from March until some point in May, when suddenly a switch is flipped and it's tolerable for a week before oppressive heat kicks in that no one is prepared for.

 

 

 

I agree that there is a psychological element to it, but the gloominess over the past few years has made it feel worse.

Awful day. Climate in NYC is beginning to really stink now for half the year: Winters too warm for snow and Spring, while not necessarily below average are overly raw and wet. 

8 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Are people actually taking off for this lol

It's an extremely rare event! Unfortunately could not make it out of the City but will take my kids to the Park to experience the partial eclipse with the special glasses. Not nearly as good as being in totality but better than nothing.

I did research if/when NYC will be in the path of totality - May 1, 2079! Will either be dead or too old to know what is happening assuming I am even still living here, lol.

40 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

But does it also mean clear weather for the eclipse? That seems to be a near certainty now, with only a 1% chance of clouds?

 

I think western NY does have higher probs of "unexpected" cloudiness vs here but def looks good right now!

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

Upton went all in here with blizzard conditions and big totals....most of the storm was heavy rain during the day...then we got a dryslot of sorts with some light garbage snows...we did get accumulating snow overnight mainly on the grass, ended up with 3-4 inches of slop. Hunter Mtn had 3 feet from what I remember

I was living in Armonk at the time and we got around 11 inches. But accumulations dropped rapidly southward as Westchester airport, only a few miles south was at 6-7 inches if I recall. 

40 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

61 here. Looks like Thursday gets into the 70’s with sun, warmest day we’ve had since November 

Bring it on, nothing worse than being too warm for snow but still too cold to enjoy anything.

31 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Brutal 

Yea, two separate storms hitting us on consecutive days - frustrating that the lack of spacing between them is not preventing the 2nd one from reaching us. 

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

It boggles my mind that people want this warmth this early.  We have 8 more months of this mild weather. 

 

Wtf

If it's not going to snow then a day like today is great. Cool, dreary / rainy is depressing and unfortunately is what we will get starting tomorrow and will last for an entire week.

1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

I noted the same thing on Sunday. There’s a hard line just north of Duchess and the snow doesn’t start again till Lake George.

Crazy winter. Im glad its over.

Sad state of affairs

It did end up snowing a few inches in the Berks overnight, beautiful fluffy snow. Happy I got one more mini event under my belt lol. Will be a nice day to ski!

4 hours ago, the_other_guy said:

Im impressed with snow cover remaining in Westchester. Granted we have hills. Enjoying last licks. 36F light rain

Drove up to the Berkshires today and was also impressed with the snow cover - especially in northern Westchester into Putnam. Funny enough snow cover dropped to almost nil once I got into central Dutchess county and it continued that way the rest of the drive up! The far northern areas did not cash in at all during the past two events. It is quite eery to be up here in Feb and not see much of any snow on the ground.

Just now, Bxstormwatcher360 said:

The universe always evens it out somehow lol

Except for the manhattan snowhole which continues!

11 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

or it’s still 32° in Central Park and never got back to the 20s as forecasted. 

 

It will be interesting to see what the totals will be in central Park today versus the airports

The snow stuck here easily, we just didn't get into that band

8 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

It is 40 right now in CPK. I love your optimism, but it will take a while to cool down tonight in city

Hey I do get your pessimism, I live in Manhattan so I definitely know all about how hard it is to accumulate here! That being said, temps will be better, heck 40 isn't too bad (and as others noted the dews are quite low anyway so there is room to drop pretty quickly). What is not clear is whether decent rates make it up here - if they do CPK may do better than Monday.

6 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

I think you’re asking the wrong question. I think the right question to ask is what is the probability of Central Park getting the lowest amount of snow in the region again? And I think that’s actually likely.

 

Again, a marginal temperature situation in a marginal winter in an urban environment. If this keeps trending north, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Northern suburbs get more snow than central Park even though Central Park has more precip than the northern suburbs. And that’s what happened this past week.

Most of us still have snow on the ground… The Central Park have any left?

Temps will be better this time around and the event starts overnight which should help. But can CPK end up being at the lower end again? Sure.

My point is that it's possible CPK ends up with more than the last event. 

What are the probs that CPK gets more here vs this past monday's event? I'd say around 50/50 or even a bit higher now with these latest trends 

13 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

I agree. Enjoy whatever we get for Saturday, which my guess is probably a plowable event (maybe something like 3-5 inches?). The final few days of this month and early March looks ugly

Would be funny if the Park ends up with more from this one

2 minutes ago, RU848789 said:

Newark was 8.4:1 and even at my house in Metuchen it was 8.3:1.  I'm guessing everywhere NW of the TPK from Trenton to Newark also had ratios of at least 8:1.  East of the TPK in NENJ/NYC it was often lower, possibly due to lower intensity, possibly the UHI.  And I assume it was at least 10:1 N of 78/W of 287 in NJ and N of 287 in NY.  

Initially due to UHI, then due to rates. Only had the good stuff for around 90 mins in Manhattan. 

30 minutes ago, bluewave said:

While the NYC under 2” snowfall streak has finally ended, Boston continues its under 4” run.

 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 4 
for Boston Area, MA (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Run Length	Ending Date
1	717	2024-02-12
2	711	2013-02-07
-	711	1987-01-18
3	702	2003-02-06
4	686	1937-12-31
5	674	1974-01-08

Boston got screwed with this one which is weird considering that our northern areas scored big time as when the models indicated this a few days ago, Boston also scored big. When the models indicated the southern trend yesterday, both our northern suburbs and Boston seemed to have lost out. Weird storm.

Edit: Weirdly modeled storm I guess

23 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Probably closer to 4-4.5.

The reason we care is they have been doing this for decades. Not every time, but the majority of the time, and they're especially bad on most of the big ones.

The only period I've ever seen decent accurate measurements was when they had the Conservatory taking the measurements for several years in the 2010's. Why they stopped that I'd love to know.

I do care too and have made many comments about their inaccuracy in the past. For this storm I don't think they were far off. I measured around 3.5 in a few spots. 

Edit: To add, I woke up early (630) and even then there was only an inch at most so there was some lost totals due to UHI. Also we were in the heavy rates for only 90 mins or so mid morning so this also really prevented higher accumulations. 

3.2 measurement is close enough, may have been 3.5 but honestly who cares? Could have been an easy 6 if we stayed within the good banding.

1 minute ago, wdrag said:

CP snowfall today?

 

I don't think it's been posted but I'd guess around 3-4.

1 minute ago, Gravity Wave said:

Lack of consistent heavy rates plus the bad boundary layer (and warm pre-storm conditions) killed the storm in Manhattan. Very reminiscent of 3/7/18 where it snowed all day but the deform band ended up over NNJ instead of the City where it was modeled to be and the torched boundary layer never never got the full dynamic cooling effect so we had 33-34 degree white rain. Wound up with a coating of slush in Midtown and little more in Chelsea.

This will def be better than that one in Manhattan. Everything including roads were covered at around 930 with the good rates and we are already at 3-4 inches. Rates diminished after that and with the recent salt spreading, streets are mostly clear again.