^ realist 

Just now, Hoosier said:

The AstraZeneca vaccine is taking on substantial criticism because of how they ran the trials.

There’s a lot of questions on the accuracy and the distribution of the doses.  

1 hour ago, Malacka11 said:

Went for a run this morning... everywhere I went smelled like food. Saw quite a few more cars on the road and all that; nothing crazy like what Hoosier's describing but there's definitely a lot of family fun going on right now. Even if everyone were to just celebrate with their own immediate families, I wonder if there would be a notable increase. Please don't weenie me, I'm just speculating.

Actually +1 to this.  I noticed that too along with a lot of wood burning (fireplaces)

1 hour ago, dta1984 said:

That's a huge percentage of non contagious positive tests

"Public health experts throughout the U.S. are raising concerns that "standard [COVID-19] tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus," the New York Times reported on Saturday. A significant majority of the individuals who test positive "are not likely to be contagious," the paper says. "

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/report-90-covid-19-cases-might-not-be-contagious

Certainly explains the increase in hospitalizations then 

10 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

I see 5 states with hospitalization declines in the past week: ND, WI, MO, NE, IA. None of those states have enacted any restrictions of substance.

I saw this which is surprising.  IA is still reporting 35% positivity rates with fairly consistent numbers.  

12 minutes ago, Stebo said:

 

That and closing bars. Both are massive contributors.

IL did the same, yet we keep racking up the highest daily amounts in the country unfortunately.

Won’t believe it until I see an unrealistic NAM run

2 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

88,080 hospitalizations today. A new record for the 15th day in a row. We will probably reach 100k by Sunday or Monday. Texas is a recorded for any state 

80,000 people hospitalized.  Insane numbers 

My wife ran the Olympic trials in the marathon a couple of times so she runs a lot of miles.  Her resting heart rate is in the high 30s. It’s very possible and some people are born with lower heart rates  

2 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

I haven't talked about health on here in several months. I know we talked about it some in another Coronavirus thread back in the Spring. Obviously health is extra important during a pandemic.

I completely agree about magnesium! That's the one supplement I take. In general I am not a believer in supplements, believing it's much more important to get nutrients from food. But magnesium is so critical to heart and artery health, so I do take that.

+1 for the magnesium.  

something tells me you may want to reuse your map several times over the next few months 

ugh... IL with 150 today

sloppy

4 hours ago, Stebo said:

Yep and colleges are filled with people who spread all over the country. Hell look at some of the biggest initial spreaders, spring breakers coming back from Florida to places like NYC Chicago Detroit.

And I have a feeling that will continue this cycle through thanksgiving with students coming home 

Just now, Hoosier said:

I don't know how much of a problem this will be early on (when higher risk individuals are vaccinated), but if a healthy 25 year old goes to get vaccinated in spring and experiences some side effects, you have to wonder if some of them won't bother to return for round 2.

I wonder if efficacy was measured with just one shot longer term. Obviously the booster helps or else it wouldn’t be part of it. 
 

at that point the ball is on the 20.  Gotta just do it. 

Also I have seen testing sites quoting 4-7 days on results.  

I know this was mentioned before. 
 

Doctors say CDC should warn people the side effects from Covid vaccine shots won't be 'a walk in the park'

Just now, wxtrix said:

you told people to take medical advice from a quack. stay in your lane.

In my lane, science provides facts.
 

Go back out east.  Or better yet in the banter thread. 

4 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

facts don't ruin fact-based threads.

But clearly science does 

6 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

so you weren't diagnosed as obese by your doctor, you just decided that since you had more free time, because you are working from home, you'd lose weight. and now you feel free to bash overweight people because you've lost 21 pounds. LOL.

No

2 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

that guy is a complete quack and no one should be taking his "advice".

Then pot kettle

you’re too much 

9 minutes ago, mississaugasnow said:

Its great that you've lost the weight. I find the fasting part interesting when looking into healthier lifestyle a few years back, but for the large part of the population, me included its nearly impossible for me to go long periods of time without food. difference is food choice like you mentioned. Instead of bag of chips its an apple and banana. Instead of 2 sandwiches its one with a bag of carrots ect.. Everyone takes diets and tweaks them a bit and its wonderful you've been able to lose your weight with yours. Its no easy task and I congratulate you on that. 

Thanks.  Check out some of Dr Jason Fung’s work.  Pretty incredible research. 

8 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

 

you were 10 lbs overweight and you were obese?

This was at the start of covid.  I’m down 21 now but still categorically near obesity at 29 BMI, which is a stupid measure but the only universal one. 

5 minutes ago, mississaugasnow said:

lol at the people coming in here talking about going from obese/overweight to normal weight in a few weeks. On average you should only lose 1-2 pounds a week (it will be more at the beginning) you will plateau numerous times and almost want to give up. I also say this as someone that runs 10km a day and counted calories and switched my diet around and workout regiment around to kick start during the plateaus. The fad fasting, extreme weight loss is BS and doesn't work for 99% of the population. I went from being 6'2 235 pounds two years ago to 195 pounds today. The big reason for the weight staying off and down is because I didn't do the BS ive seen thrown around in here. Slow and steady over years not weeks/months. 

Not disagreeing about health and lifestyle choices playing a bigger role in the outcome. Just saying this informercial garbage ive heard in the last few pages about weight loss is straight up overnight tv information. And I recommend no one makes lifestyle choices on those late night informercials haha 

None of that happens in weeks.  It took me 4+ months to get halfway where I wanted to be, which was to lose 10 lbs.  this was from fasting and changing what I eat. 
 

Admittedly, knowing that covid outcomes were worse off when your health is bad helped to make me stop procrastinating and make time.
 

That and changing my supplement regime helped as well. 5,000 IUI of Vitamin D as an example.  Something like that can’t hurt.  

5 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

you told us you have a working wife so you have 2 incomes, so you are middle class. and you said we are in a pause which makes no sense to people who can’t telework. so i presented facts.

Troll on

you Know so much yet don’t have a clue