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1 hour ago, hawkeye_wx said:

00z HRRR and NAM are both north and snowier.  Perhaps the full sampling, with wave #2 now onshore, has something to do with it.

Like the track, toss the totals 

5 hours ago, fujiwara79 said:

we've become a third world country in some respects.  not in terms of wealth, but in terms of government and societal dysfunction.  we have 3000 people dying per day and slowly heading into a double-dip recession.  our government is incapable of addressing the needs of the people.  meanwhile, we have a gigantic fundraising scam going on ($500 million dollars and counting) that is completely based on a fake story ("rigged" election).  geez, donate your money to a food bank instead.  were people this stupid 20 years ago?  i'd like to think not, but maybe social media has made stupidity contagious.

We are not heading for a double dip recession. Stop the hyperbole. 

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1 hour ago, dta1984 said:

Sure, but isn't it common knowledge that the main side effect is feeling like you actually have the china flu? 

47 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

 It's not all about politics. 

right

34 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Starting to see more stories about the nasty side effects from the vaccine as expected.   That second shot will be a tough sell. 

right - the two people with pre-existing allergic reactions that had allergic reactions that cleared up?

funny how one sided you are.

9 minutes ago, mattb65 said:

I can't help but come back to this completely reality detached statement.

You have no appreciation for the scale of what 2500+ deaths a day much less 3,000+ deaths per day means. The leasing causes of death are heart disease and cancer. If we average 3,000 deaths per day for a whole month, that's just about the same number of people dying from Covid as people that die from cancer and heart disease in a month combined!

"Not that fatal" 

There are a few idiots in this thread who believe that this is only an old person or a fat person disease.

The reality to me is, how is this any different than the top leading causes of death?  I don't hear too many 12 year olds having a heart attack, but heart disease is the leading killer in this country of the elderly and unhealthy.  I don't see as many 12 year olds passing away from cancer, but cancer is the 2nd most cause of death in this country of the unhealthy and elderly.

Facts are facts.  Numbers don't lie.  Covid is now in the top 3 and unfortunately has affected everyone no matter your age or weight.  I choose to take it seriously.

35 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Indeed.  Looks like worldometers is not going with 25k as the "new" daily number.

OTE: Ohio: “Today the Ohio Department of Health (ODH) reports the Bureau of Infectious Disease has cleared the backlog of pending files that dated back to November 1, causing a one-day spike in cases, bringing today’s reported case total to 25,721. Included in the reported cases for today are the results from approximately 13,000 that were part of the report backlog [...] After understanding more about antigen tests, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), changed their case definition in August allowing antigen tests to be included in case counts without additional verification,” said ODH Chief Medical Officer Dr. Bruce Vanderhoff.  “ODH is now aligned with CDC’s current definition and we will begin reflecting those tests immediately in our daily reported case counts moving forward.”

1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Biden is asking people to wear a mask during the first 100 days of his presidency (warning:  no mention of fringe theories about the EC voting against him).  

I think it's great to frequently encourage this from the top.  I am a bit skeptical on how many minds it can change as people seem to be pretty dug in, but even a small increase in mask wearing wouldn't hurt.

This should have been the case from the summer on, instead of just saying its no big deal or that we are rounding the corner.  Just at least show that you give a crap, science or not.

AZ is confusing - 12k cases on about 20k tests?  Thats a 60% rate -there has to be a large backlog if yesterday's positivity (i know it was monday) was near 9%

Guess I am looking forward to  Friday/Saturday soaker?

And yes, 0.3 would be a soaker

I think that Southern CA definitely has pandemic fatigue.  SF numbers aren't that bad but they have been more strict with this throughout according to those i know in the bay area.

Today was a poster lousy winter day for Chicago.

Grey, grass is meh, trees are sticks and its cold.  This is awful.

lol  

nominate for thread of the year 

1 in 2.5, 1 in 8, 1 in 4 - its all speculation.  no one has any idea

we're no where close to herd immunity.

5 hours ago, IWXwx said:

Sounds like a good plan to me.

"Former Democratic congressman and presidential candidate John Delaney has suggested giving Americans who are willing to take a coronavirus vaccine a $1,500 stimulus check."

https://www.wane.com/news/stimulus-checks-would-a-1500-payment-make-you-more-likely-to-get-a-covid-vaccine/

I agree with this, but we need stimulus now.  I think that those that are unemployed or have earned under a certain pay should be entitled to $1k now, and those willing to vaccinate receive $500 and perhaps up to $900 per family...  similar to healthcare deductibles.  

but the stimulus now is necessary.

I know this because I am in business.  

This is incredibly boring.

Just now, Angrysummons said:

She likely had a weakness, just likely unknown. So she did have a preexisting condition in the end.

Add doctor/surgeon/specialist to that list...  working in medicine as well as working in business

3 hours ago, Angrysummons said:

I don't see the doom, sorry. Restrictions look done by April and private business is planning on ramping up services and production the 2nd quarter of the year. Fear mongering by economists is already wrong and 7 trillion dollars has been created both by government and private banking since April.

where you get your info is such a mystery

42 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

One issue with the vaccine right off the bat has to do with pregnant women.  There are a lot of women in healthcare with some fraction of them being pregnant.  Pfizer and Moderna did not enroll pregnant women in their trials, so there is no data for that group of people.  No data is not necessarily the same thing as not safe/effective, but are pregnant healthcare workers going to be forced to get vaccinated?  I could see that being problematic if some of them don't want to be vaccinated, and they'd be able to argue that hey, there is no data to back up this vaccine for me.

Do we know that for a fact?  I didn’t see anything one way or another about pregnant women in trials.  

If symptom onset is typically 3+ days, I would think that starting around now forward some of the testing will begin from Thanksgiving.  Who knows how long those results will take however, so I am thinking the low point a couple of days ago(mostly due to data backlog) is probably the lowest we will see for a while.

Hospitalizations up 2,400 nationally today and up 9,500 over the last 7 days. 

LOTs early details

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This system is a mess to watch.  The flip flopping is awful.  Moisture is there, but thats about all.  Too bad there's not more forcing off the east coast.  

Keep in mind that this is only an estimate through September, before the increase.  
 

5 hours ago, Hoosier said:

The Indiana University Fairbanks School of Public Health has been doing an ongoing study of the prevalence of covid-19 in the state of Indiana.  Their latest numbers really surprised me.  As of November 20, they estimate that only 10.6% of the state has been infected.  The reason this surprised me is that it would mean about 715,000 people have been infected, and we had about 280,000 confirmed cases on 11/20.  So, it would seem to imply that since the start of the pandemic, testing in Indiana has successfully caught about 1 out of 2.5 cases (I understand the lag with testing and getting results, but just keeping it simple). That goes against basically everything I have read.  I acknowledge that there is state by state variance on how many cases have been caught, but 1 out of 2.5 sounds like an awfully damn good success rate.  I was wondering if I'm missing something and there's some word gaming, like does a confirmed case not always equal an infection, but I don't know.

If the 10.6% is somehow right, and I have my doubts, it's bad news as the state has already had well over 5k deaths and vaccines are still weeks to months away. 

I would think 1 out of 2.5 is good considering I’ve seen numbers indicating that testing is catching 1 out of every 8 in some places 

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