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  1. 7 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

     

    imagine the privilege that allows you to throw away a career over something as stupid as a vaccine.

     

    He wont be the only one. 

    Im at the point of not getting a booster if needed or wearing a mask again. So lock me up and throw away the key. Just know your getting a fight.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, UMB WX said:

    hand-washing...lol.  Americans don't value hygiene.

    a tiny bit of common sense would give clues where infections were going when they removed some cautions.. naturally infections were going to rise to some degree and we crossed our fingers.

    then a long comes delta when all caution has been thrown to the wind for the past 2 months in Israel and America.. 

    Instead of fighting the Virus united.. We play But My Freedumbs mental gymnastics until they lose their choices in the Pandemic.  Brilliant strategy.   

     

    How long you willing to wear a mask? Another year? 5 years? Forever?

  3. 3 minutes ago, radarman said:

    The virus was not widely thought to be airborne until much later.  Now I think it's taken for granted that it is.  N95 type respirators might be quite effective but if indeed most people are getting it via aerosols the majority of the fabric masks you see aren't going to help very much.

    Ya pretty sure the NIH CDC and WHO knew it was airborne weeks after first lockdowns in China. If not we have some pretty bad people running the show. Plus terrible intelligence community.

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  4. 4 minutes ago, weathafella said:

    Can you provide that link?  If you’re talking March 2020 that’s silly to bring up.   Data influences decisions.   It’s not old KA never changing a forecast....

    The guy told us one thing last feb and march but actually thought something else. No denying it.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, weathafella said:

    There it is, the Fauci bashing....

    Dr. Fauci is one of the most brilliant scientists of the generation.   I’ve been following his work for 40 years.  However, as a fellow son of a pharmacist I was appalled at his first ball in DC fiasco at the game last year.

    I find him "Meh". And ya the forcast changes but tell us your forcast at the moment. Dont have it leak out a year later.

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  6. 43 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

    huh? that doesn't provide any context for the percentage of people who were fully-vaccinated (2 shots + 2 weeks) who tested positive, were hospitalized, or died.

    the point of the vaccine is to minimize severe cases and/or death, not to stop transmission.  and the reason that the delta variant has spread is that people won't get vaccinated and won't wear a stupid mask for a short period of time.

    good grief.

    Fauci said masks dont work. Its in his private emails

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  7. 33 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

    all the Big Brains in this thread are threatened by people asking for fact-based proof.

    Alot of its predicting what the future will look like. Its already changed.

    For exp. Vaccine passports

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  8. 17 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

    This is what is going to send me out of Banter for the night. 

    4,115 out of ~164,000,000. Even if the level of breakthrough infection was 10 or heck let's say 50 times higher than what has been reported that's still only .125% of vaccinated people.

    Then lets open up the country. Its not a big deal if you vaccinated right. Due away with mask and all other BS.

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  9. 2 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

     

    from your link:

     

    how is that rate--a little over 20% of .003& "to [sic] much death" compared to the number of unvaccinated people who have died, and compared to the rising infection rate as of late because selfish people won't get vaccinated and/or wear masks?

    Its to much for certain governors in this country. Politicians wont care the death rate is around seasonal flu. 

    Restrictions will still be in place because of cases and occasional death. The scare of mutations alone is enough for mask mandates.

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  10. 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

    :blink:

    Objectively just not true. If that were the case Mass should be headed towards the breaking point after the P-town outbreak seeding its way across New England. Hospitalizations are a whole order of magnitude lower than they were at either of the previous peaks in Mass. 

    Its not our cold/flu season yet. People arnt huddled inside. 

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/26/cdc-4115-fully-vaccinated-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-with-breakthrough-covid-19-infections/

    Even with every american vaccinated their would still be to much death

  11. 13 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

    Except you keep saying things like this.

    There is plenty of evidence that the vaccines are effective at preventing cases as well as severe outcomes. That's why I brought up the denominator problem. Ballpark the population over 65 in Israel is around 1,000,000. Let's say a third have received a booster. 14 cases is .004%. Not .4%, .004%. That would be wildly effective at preventing cases, so I would say we should expect more than 14 cases even in booster scenarios based on what we know about the efficacy of these shots.

    Ya it works but not good enough to keep people from dying. Even with everyone vaxxed there will still be enough cases to overwhelm the system.... Will then we shut it down is the question or keep chugging along.

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  12. 6 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

    More interesting news out of Israel:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-14-israelis-have-caught-covid-19-despite-receiving-booster-shot/

    Israel's experience is really showing that mass vaccination is not going to end the casedemic or get us to "COVID zero." Other metrics are needed.

    Or the Pfizer vaccine is really on the ropes and we just haven't come to terms with that here yet.

    Might be on to something Phin. Its hard to grasp and people dont want to grasp it. We all want the pandemic to end.

     

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  13. 5 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

    Anti vaxx Rizzo positive for the Yanks 

    I know it would be a small sample size but if someone could do a spread sheet of players across all sports. The vaxx vs unvaxxed... How many caught covid?

    Maybe still early to do that. You couldnt count 2020 or even early 2021.

    It would be interesting. Im to lazy to do the research, maybe count baseball a d start doing football.

  14. 2 minutes ago, bristolri_wx said:

    I don't feel the need because I don't even know what OT is.  If it's outside the New England section I don't bother with it.  But feel free to let them know bristolri_wx thinks it's shitty that's what they are discussing while you're there...

    I wouldnt say hes coming off happy. He is however saying "I told you so"

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