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Big snowstorms for this region do not typically move down from the northwest. This storm was/is a freak. Almost all of us bought into the models' April fools' joke in December. Our big storms generally move in from the west (miller B's) or up from the south (coastals) miller A's. With had bust written all over it but none of us bought into it. There was really never sufficient vertical velocity to produce the snow amounts we were all going for. NAM for example is a very sensitive model and should have had some at least +20-+30 vv's for us to get a sustained period of heavy snow. WX/PT
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These northern stream storms or Colarado lows bring light to moderate snowfalls for our area. If the subtropical jet starts getting more active and we start getting some more arctic chill in here it could get far more interesting. I think there's better than a 50% chance that will happen eventually. WX/PT
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I think it's fair to say that in the last 24 hours this potential storm has become more interesting and that if trends continued it could open up the possibility of a mostly frozen or even a mostly snow event Friday. But there's a lot of *ifs* there. WX/PT
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Operational GFS is mostly snow for that event and a good amount of it. It shows a more suppressed storm track primary low dies over the Appalachians and re-develops well offshore east of Delmarva Peninsula. We'll see this change more than a few times over the next 3 days. I think it's worth watching. 18Z Euro AI had storm track right over us with nothing but rain. WX/PT
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I will miss your posts. I've followed you for 30-40 years and remember your discussions from the 1980s/90s. Best of health to you! WX/PT
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I'm expecting the heaviest (moderate/borderline heavy) snowfall rates from this storm between 4-8am. That's about a half to one inch/hour for 4 hours. And it adds up in most places to 2-5". At this point I think there'll be alot of 2 and 3" amounts a few 4s and a few 5s. The duration of light/wet snow losing an inch or two of what could have been. The dynamics are poor but I think there'll improve slightly as we get on into the morning. WX/PT
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Our best chance to see some snow this month may be from a quick hitting Alberta Clipper or associated cold front. But of course we're talking light snow and nothing major. The trough is just too far east and the flow too flat. There isn't enough room or time for anything to really dig and slow down, gather moisture, and trigger a major winter storm as the maps look now. But it's early still and the models are not that good. Subtle adjustments and you just know they're going to happen could change things. We watch and wait. Most of my prior threat dates are now not so near misses. WX/PT
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We should have a close call Friday night into Saturday with low pressure passing from west to east to our south. An outside chance snow gets in here for a time but at this point, at least, it does not look like a big deal for the NYC/LI areas. Then we watch a potential event for Dec 10-11th. And even more potential around Dec 13th. It's active. Something to watch every 2-3 days. We'll see if the big warm-up advertised on some of the models during the Dec 14-17th time-frame is real or just models gone awry. WX/PT
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An outside chance as the low pressure pulls away to the east that NYC and LI briefly flip to light snow before the precip ends tonight. Maybe a dusting if that. WX/PT
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Keep in mind the antecedent high pressure is moving away. So it's cold now, but once the HP exits in the next 4-6 hours, temps will rise. WX/PT
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Modeling is now good enough we do not usually get the surprises we got in the 1960s & 70s (very few in the 70s). WX/PT
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Alot of precip issues determined by timing and whether low pressure holds back long enough that antecedent cold HP is gone or runs right into it since we do not yet have a purely southern storm track. Tuesday's was the one that had a shot but only if it started early enough. This probably the case now for the first two weeks of Dec. WX/PT
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I think there's a combination of rain/sleet/snow at the start but otherwise mostly rain nearer the coast possibly heavy at times. I'm more interested in Friday night. WX/PT
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NYC Metro-MUCH Colder weather is just ahead in next 2-3 weeks expecting some snow on the ground by Dec 15th maybe as early as Dec 5th. WX/PT
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A prelude to the frigid arctic intrusions and wind driven snows of this upcoming winter particularly January & February. WX/PT
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Looks like a good hit, 1.00-2.50" rain tomorrow into Monday with winds 20-30mph gusts up to 50mph+ at times. Some coastal flooding & beach erosion then storm moves away quickly Monday night into Tuesday. I'm driving from Douglaston to Kingston tomorrow and will return on Tuesday. There should be slightly lower rain amounts up in Kingston points north and west. WX/PT
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It certainly doesn't look like the big wound up powerful nor'easter we saw on the maps yesterday though a few of the models still drench us and kick up the winds. My gut feeling is the dry air works down from the north and that the low center at some point makes a righthand turn before the heavier rainfall is able to win out. I'm sure we'll get some rainfall and some wind gusts but to me at this point it looks manageable. WX/PT
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The EPS had been hinting of a more southern/offshore track on most of its runs. Some of the operational models now picking up on that idea. And the push of cool dry air down from the north with high pressure ahead of the storm argues it. Maybe the nw quadrant around the storm's center is depleted of moisture. Maybe there are two distinct areas of precip one associated with the northern stream the other separate one way down south. 24 hours from yesterday's clarity nothing is now clear. We watch and wait for further guidance. WX/PT
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It's not only closer, more than likely it is a pattern changing storm and *could* ultimately take us into a below normal temperature pattern. WX/PT
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