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That sure as heck isnt flattening for the US.

This just seems wildly hard to believe. The solution to pollution is dilution. After even a few seconds of air flow, you have to imagine concentrations are dropping dramatically as air moves and mixes. Secondly, there is an infectious dose threshold. Just because a virus can be detected, does not mean it can be contracted. Point in case is that cruise ship where they detected COVID19 17 days after. Sure, it may have been detected (DNA remnants), but could you get sick from it, seems unlikely if not impossible. Anyway, I don't know what magic room that doctor was in but air moves, and as it moves it dilutes. I see little risk to just breathing in normal air if no one else is within 6 feet.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Here is the big question.. How well do we really know the flu numbers? What if the denominator is actually far larger than we realize because similar asymptomatic carriers and mild symptoms. In that scenario, COVID19 is once again 20-30 times more deadly. I really wish we could just get some solid data but its a daunting task.

This a great 7 minute video on exponential growth and a really nice way they have found to graph it that exposes when exponential growth slows and begins to move linearly. I highly recommend giving it a watch. https://digg.com/video/coronavirus-exponential-growth-graph?fbclid=IwAR3EG6jWfBL-RDk-DWTbWBwtp62W37WLz7L9a1S6rBjz-UDseqNXR6nIOuM Using their technique, it would appear Italy is close to slowing this thing down while the US is a rocket ship. https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?fbclid=IwAR3vFckAwNVY8YFm7bFjHLPB-AgEOQDMnz0YpnCeHRE27wWOVftYB_qjxVU

Another story casting serious doubt on China’s numbers. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html

Well it’s better than the nothing I see occurring at all the other stores that are open like wegmans, gas stations, most takeout places, Home Depot, etc etc. Those places are basically functioning exactly as they always did. Anyway, I’m not here to defend game stop. I was just trying to make a positive that they found a way to stay open for the customer and pay their employees. Good grief.

Well im not advocating one way or another just saying that as a brick and mortar they rely on selling from their storefront, and their financials have been pretty weak as of late.

I imagine quite a few people are playing video games while sitting in quarantine. This is game stops big moment to turn an otherwise shitty situation into some profit! Sounds like they at least have something in place to limit exposure.

While I agree that this could have been handled much better initially I think your numbers are pretty extreme. As the death total accelerates additional action will be taken. Better testing is being developed daily, hospitals will gain experience on treating and identifying critical cases, more lockdowns will be put in place, increases in UV and humidity will likely slow transmission etc, etc. We aren’t just going to sit here and watch a million people die Maintaining exponential growth beyond a few orders of magnitude would be exceptionally rare and require us to basically do absolutely nothing. That is obviously not the case here. I agree this will be bad but saying a million people will die is ridiculous. I would be extremely shocked if we even hit 50k deaths. I’m thinking we end up somewhere around 20-30k before herd immunity takes over it and it blends in with other seasonal maladies. Once again, I’m not marginalizing this but I’m also not blowing it out of proportion. The US is on its heels right now but I expect to see social distancing efforts begin to show their worth in the coming weeks. I’ve been sheltering in place since requested in this state. I know I’ll eventually catch it, I just don’t want to catch it during the peak when hospitals are under heavier pressure in case I end up developing severe complications.

For the conspiracy theorists out there... I know it’s a pretty crappy source, haha. Still an interesting read if even parts of it are true. https://metrovoicenews.com/21-million-fewer-cellphone-users-in-china-may-reveal-true-death-toll

Agreed. Only elite hackers using vpn and proxy servers can get stuff out and they are few and far between I would imagine. The US probably has an impressive number of spies on the ground so we’d probably know if there was an apocalypse taking place over there. Seems impossible to have virtually zero local transmission only a month or so after peaking.

I mean they were literally welding people into their homes and forcibly removing sick people by utilizing roving security forces. Couple that with communist style punishment for breaking lockdown rules and they really might have done a better job of containing the spread. That said, I’m certainly skeptical of the numbers myself (they seem too good to be true), but when things were raging over there, there was plenty of video evidence leaking out as proof and i can’t find anything anymore. They either really contained it or they clamped down on the internet and are preventing all info from getting out. Hard to know.

Italy coming in with the highest single day death toll from any country since it all began. Still no clear sign anyone except China has peaked at this point. 919

That’s actually lower than their worst days so maybe they are stabilizing, albeit at a high level.

The US slides into the number 1 slot.

Just curious, What exactly did you dislike about that post so much? Seemed one of the more harmless ones of the bunch.

Orange man is an idiot. Socialism is good. Not sure where communism comes in other than you probably don’t understand what socialism is and are confusing the two. Do you know what this bailout is.......socialism!!

I’d also like to add that they know the government will bail them out when anything bad happens. I just feel if there was ever a time when you would think big corps could survive several tough months it would be right now. Economy was roaring and they just got massive tax cuts. Sad state of affairs.

Let’s buy those things with the 500 billion dollars set aside for the greedy corporations who can’t save a dime on their own. Can we agree on that? I never said we shouldn’t be spending money on a strategic stockpile of medical supplies (that you would think should have already existed) Why do Americans get scolded and told to have a 6 month emergency saving plan yet we don’t hold corporations to the same standard. You can’t be serious about drain the swamp either, trump is the king of swamp monsters and has brought on the swampiest pieces of shit in history. And this part shouldn’t even be up for debate. Conservatives are the all time pros when it comes to swampy pork barrel add ons to bills. They created that game and are working it again.

I’m sorry but performing arts supports workers just like you mentioned and is run and supported by the average American. It also supplies a creative product that many millions of Americans enjoy and will need after months of social isolation. We gave corporations a 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut 2 years ago and now are going to hand them a 500 billion dollar slush fund because not a single one of them could manage to save any sort of rainy day fund. It’s absolutely outrageous. And to be really specific, 200 million dollars is actually .01 percent of the total bailout. You thinking that .01% of the bailout is somehow a disgusting amount of money automatically makes you far more clueless than me.

I think the important take away is that if you do catch this and end up quite sick, you have a 4-10% chance of dying, that's pretty terrifying, in other words, the death rate for moderately to severely sick people is 4%

Let's say they give 200 million dollars to the performing arts, which is something that has the potential to actually help normal Americans, that accounts for less than .1% of the 2 TRILLION dollar bailout but somehow you are fine with $500 BILLION (25%!!) for corporate bailouts even though these companies just got a massive tax cut and have been buying back stock like crazy. Either you are really bad at math or you are you awful human, because that is decimal dust in the grand scheme of it all. I'm starting to think its the latter...