Yes and my son had an contractor excavating bulldozing on a hill, moving dirt bare ground in that time period. You can just imagine those thunderstorms that seemed relentless that just dumped (i believe we had close to 10 inches of rain last july) and the bare ground. I hat to have the tractor out with the scoop to remove dirt, mud from the driveway numerous times in July. was not a good mix at all. now that we got grass established that took care of most of the problem.