RogueWaves

Last I checked, October 25th is squarely in autumn territory.

2011-12 says "hold my beer" :-(

Nina gonna rock..

Here we scored (3) legit warned storms. Dec 15th was 10", the New Years Eve storm was an 8-10" event, and then the March 21-22 storm that delivered a full 13". Feb didn't feature a biggie despite getting around 30" for the month. And then 08-09, it just got better..more cold and more snow. Actually, for here, 13-14 narrowly edged 08-09 in total snow, but ofc is the hands down winner in days with deep snow cover. 1/6/14, Depth ~22", Temp @ -16F, with a balmy -41F WC

'95 was a white Turkey Day, and an even whiter Christmas. #funtimes

This is a 2020 Nina. No point in comparing with the 00's. Thx anyways

64-65 was pretty decent. Mby got 13+ from that storm. Ofc I was 8 (mos) and remember only an after photo. @ Detroit. The land of 30+ year Big Dog droughts.

Unfotunately I meant exactly that..

Iiuc we may even be looking at a strong Nina. Tradition says that'd be worse for us. But lately everything has bucked tradition. Counting on this to do the same. I do feel that if winter comes in fast and furious it will leave the same way. By that I mean early.

But, but, you say that every year, lol (seriously tho, trend's our friend. I'm on board)

So you're saying that the GFS actually has a shot then

I know KLAN was at -4F that's why I said "around here" or this general region. We share the cold morning lows with them along the US-27 corridor where zero lake influence is in play. That map has us right on the line of -2 to -4F and since there's not long-term data kept here I'm a bit skeptical of the way they've smoothed the curves for my county. Scored 3 nights in a row in the 30s while no airport E or W did that. Happens with those annual avg snowfall maps too. They are all a bit lower. Perhaps due to not including all the <0.5" dabs we get via LES

I was referring specifically to the Jan 12th(??) System that had warning headlines flying for ice and/or snow, neither of which materialized to storm levels. And it was across multiple states not just here in MI. Worst fail in decades. Some offices even issued an explanation or attempted one. Don't think any of the 3 Lower Mich offices did tho

More like a rare "day of" storm warning bust for many NWS offices. Worst seen in decades!

Running -4F around here 2/3 of the way through. That must've been for yby's

00-01 and 05-06. Two ultimate examples of winter terminating post-December

Totally get the jaded part but I can post numerous pre-season outlooks including WxBell's showing '13-14 to be a cold/snowy winter for our region.

In other words...siding with Bastardi lol

It's the Chinese export that just keeps on giving. Was unemployed by COVID. Now I'm employed by COVID. As The World Turns..

Nightmare stuff. Glad to hear from you. Can't imagine the clean-up misery in the heat of the tropics post-major hurricanes, but now you can unfortunately. I'll take a hard pass on a 1st hand at that one.

(From the August thread) Would these work for you? MOST would work for me. Wasn't 2017 a top-5 Dec for Detroit?

Anyone able to look up firm 2020 total death numbers (all causes) for the US? I'm not super-search savvy but my attempts via Google and Bing have ended in frustration. Tons of hits about C-19 this and C-19 that but still can't pin down a chart/graph/list of the total count (to date).

On the MI closed list iiuc, would be bars that mainly serve just alcohol w/o a true kitchen. Cinemas and gyms. Large auditorium events. Schools. And businesses that have taken a financial torpedo to the bow and won't be seen floating again when this is over. That's all I've got. Some other Michigander here feel free to clarify..

Dittos. The increased positives via increased testing is a no-brainer. IF death rates start spiking around here I'll be more concerned but that number (which never seems the first focus of our main media outlets) continues flat-lining. All the hoopla over that MSU campus bar that opened and was flooded with student-aged patrons that couldn't wait to get back to their drinking hangout resulted in 100+ positives. But the last article I saw nobody was ill, let alone hospitalized. And they tested all known contacts even outside the establishment per the news article. I say Mask Up Open Up!

Yet, our state's leadership chose the non-traditional path of folding tent and closing shop. Who doesn't understand that this economic crunch will role up to the government payrolls in due time as private sector businesses are who/what actually funds all those services/dept's. It's like "ready, fire, aim!"...as you shoot your own foot.