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9 hours ago, Jessy89 said:

This is a close approach if not a landfall. But either way it’s 40-50mph tropical storm. Stay inside all will be fine


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Lol right it's basically a bad Fall day in the Midwest. I did notice the humidity ticked up here in Charleston noticeably 

Terrible day here on Sullivan’s Island out by Charleston. Clouds in the distance are from Tropical Depression One

It'll be interesting to see the career changes that happen in this country. You're going to see a major diaspora of workers from retail, hospitality and dining to ?  Hopefully this re-emphasizes the importance of a strong manufacturing sector and desire of these jobs. 

1 hour ago, madwx said:

I think you guys are doing a reasonable job opening up but to say you are in line with the rest of states in testing is an outright lie,  you have the second least amount of tests per capita in the nation, the US average is 30k tests per million and there are 20 states with over 30k test per 1M so no there aren't just "a few outliers"

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21193848/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths-tests-by-state

Need to chill man I'm just going off of this chart. Doesn't look to me like the average is 30K

7 minutes ago, madwx said:

It's a good thing y'all are ramping up testing because your current testing numbers are paltry.

 

The goal was to match the ramp up with the opening. Right now the majority of testing is being done in healthcare facilities, nursing homes and minority-heavy communities where it is disproportionately affecting them. But SC is right in line with the vast majority of states who have tested per 1M people, most are in that $15-25K range with a few outliers.

Just thought I would post this article from today..

Fauci praises South Carolina's response to Covid-19

His exact quote is...

SC's measures in his opinion “ would optimize your capability of reopening.”

“I’d almost want to clone that and make sure other people hear about that and see what you’ve been doing"

Our department of health or DHEC is vigorously ramping up tests, hiring contact tracers, and people to maintain the database. In my opinion this is the greatest failure of the Midwest on the whole, instead of finding solutions to open reasonably with strict measures and tracking, those governors by and large have resorted in extreme measures. Why in South Carolina have we not had armed protests and death threats? Because the reasonable solutions have led to mostly reasonable responses from the public. We have curbed a spike in this disease and increased testing considerably, already have statewide antibody testing, and tonight I'm going to play in a golf league and then get BBQ with friends. That is a pipe dream in many of the Great Lakes states because the focus seems off. 

I love talking weather with you all and seeing how things are going back home, so my heart goes out to everyone for how this is affecting you guys.  My fear is the extreme measures are going to lead to greater tragedy and economic loss in an area that needs none of that.

4 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Saw a graph showing dine-in attendance at restaurants in some southern states that have reopened.  The numbers are way down, even accounting for the capacity limits that are in place.  Going to be important to thrive on takeout and outdoor seating, which obviously not all will be able to do.   

Yeah we had little choice. Tourism is soooo important to this area, that a lot of the talk is why would someone visit from Detroit or Chicago if these coastal communities are full of shuttered businesses. 

Honestly you you guys are lucky in the Rust Belt to be so dependent on manufacturing right now. Because the service industry is king, the state was basically saying we will be broke unless we figure out some way to open things.

I cannot believe we are looking at a clipper in early May

6 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Yeah that is fairly surprising, at least to me.  Especially with mask wearing in the South outpacing the Midwest.  Not really sure why that would be.  Maybe people there perceive a higher sense of risk since obesity and diabetes are generally more prevalent?  I think some states in the South also started reopening some things earlier.  Places in the South have been getting a lot of media attention for various reasons (New Orleans, Florida, Georgia) but there are areas in the Midwest that have been too  (like Detroit and Chicago).  Interesting.

Well yeah everything down here is fried lol

I honestly think Montreal has the most desirable weather in CA. Far enough north and far enough east to catch nor’easter traffic. It can be just as warm as Toronto during summer. 
When the winds come from a perfect SW direction the winds pick up humidity from Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and the St. Lawerence river. 

Interesting data posted by Nate Silver today. Why aren’t you guys wearing masks lol? Stunned at this graphic

Anyone watching Weather Channel? Awesome view right now of a storm trying to put a tornado down

 
Thanks for clarifying. Here in Ontario and I would imagine most states there is a disconnect between smaller cities and rural vs bigger cities. The low population of South Carolina might explain some characteristics as Northern Ontario cities are also asking for Ontario to reopen and I imagine they're calling us in the Southern part sissies. Its all relative though because I travel all over Ontario for work and sometimes the Northern Ontario clients come down to Toronto and sweat buckets and talk about how nerve whacking the 18 lane wide 401 is by the airport. They also ask how does anyone get used to driving like that haha. For me thats where I can call them sissies haha  

Only one in the pool today as it only hit 73° F/23° C here. Haha quite chilly for early May

Wow only 55° here in Charleston this morning! Haha feels like a Midwest day

 
Ive been looking at traffic jams in North America since mid march and I havent seen a change in South Carolinas cities? Though to be fair, I never really looked at Charleston or Columbias traffic before, but at 8:30am today there is zero traffic and it shows all green on the interstates? Is there normally traffic jams in those cities? Atlanta, Houston, Dallas all show relatively easy commutes still even though they are open. 
The reason im interested is I live in Hamilton and commute to Toronto now that my job is back (4 weeks deemed non-essential construction) and my commute should take 65-90 minutes because its bumper to bumper but right now im doing it in 40 minutes at 7:30am with it feeling like a sunday evening drive. 

Anecdotally I was noticing more traffic around here few weeks ago and then cell phone tracking data came out that backed it up (not just here but in much of the nation).  People are being more mobile now.  There is definitely stay at home fatigue.   

57 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Why am I seeing that the South Carolina stay at home order ended on Monday, 2 days ago?

Yeah no one followed it lol. Seriously traffic is been pretty heavy for awhile, boat launches have almost no parking spots, parks full, and golf courses requiring tee times as late as 5 PM on weekdays. 

Again though it is an entirely different culture here. Believe me when I say it is obvious why these people seceded from the Union first in the Civil War. Politically this state makes Donald Trump look like a liberal lol

55 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Man these numbers just suck.  Seems like it's going to take forever to consistently get under 1000 deaths/day in the US.  Will we ever get there with things beginning to reopen?

It is astounding reading this thread and seeing the fear in all you northerners. Guys we've been running around here in South Carolina for two weeks now wide open, heck outdoor bars and restaurants are even full. There was a bit of an uptick but nothing ridiculous, in fact we only added 60 new cases today. 

I know few of you will understand and many will disagree, but everyone north of the Ohio River needs to get a bottle of Xanax and chill out. I feel bad because it pains me to see my old stomping grounds just destroying the economies, which will only lead to more jobs heading to the Sun Belt, but you just gotta be cautious and use common sense folks. 

But the money is lost only in principle, the money will be spent once things open up because a lot of people are sitting on liquidity right now. Anyone that is working or even collecting unemployment. The latter of which covers many of those service industry workers.
Vegas obviously is a different ball of wax because of the gaming industry though so I will give credit on that one.

That is an extremely impressive hail core heading towards Florence.

Exactly. So who are these people who are suffering. Sure there might be someone out there that is but every measure possible is being done to make sure that isn't the case and furthermore some are even making more with this happening which is a whole different horrible issue. But to that point people have money and will spend when this opens. So the economy tanking is on speculation by people who profit off speculation. 

No they weren't. Whoever gave you this information is wrong, and that 'company' you know was probably breaking the law.

5 minutes ago, RobertSul said:

Sounds like that’d be against the stay-at-home order, then. I don’t see any exceptions being made to factories in the literature, but of course to forcibly shut them down would be governmental overreach and to keep them open would be hypocritical. 

See I think they should have for consistency purposes. It's hard to justify one sector being shut down, when then manufacturing people are doing the same thing but in a factory.  Again though the overreach by Gov. Whitmer is deplorable and she should absolutely lose re-election regardless of party. To tell people what they can and cannot buy in stores, and that they cannot go to second homes is insanity. 

I understand the intent, but this is America. 

13 minutes ago, RobertSul said:

I’m having trouble finding any information online that supports this. Do you have any sources?

From the Detroit Free Press...

The governor's order also designates "critical infrastructure workers" that will be allowed to continue working. Full details are listed here. These include workers in the following sectors:

Health and public safety
Child care
Law enforcement and first responders
Food and agriculture
Energy
Water and waste management such as trash pickup, plumbing services
Manufactures providing essential services during the pandemic
Funeral home and mortuary services
Transportation and logistics
Those supporting food, shelter and other social services for the needy
Public works
Communications, including those in media 
Critical manufacturing
Financial services
Hazardous materials
Defense industrial base
Workers at key supply and distribution centers

Basically all companies have used the two bolded exemptions to continue to running as their reasons. It's why all my friends back home in manufacturing are still working.