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so that is the key? best rates before the changeover?

kinda meh over here; was ripping very early but rather light for the last 45 mins or so. gonna need to pick up the pace considerably to make it to 6. most mets calling for 8-12 here, we'll see. bitter cold out; managed to get my walk in the mall; just me, the guard, the cleaners, a couple cops hanging out under the parking deck, and a few homeless taking shelter in the mall, with no one giving them any grief on a day like this. i'd say about 3 and change otg so far; roads are empty so easy drive and not too bad at all. visibility was excellent.

mt holly not as bullish as they were ; dropped amounts 2-4 and believe south of 95 switches to rain; sleet up to i 80, then they admit warm layer isn't that deep and could be overcome by intense snows....something we have tended to discount.....

it is bitter out. just moved the cars off the street as the town requires in snow, put wipers up....i busted one last storm. flipped them on by instinct and cursed myself immediately. filled gas tank for blower and the tank had a leak, now i have to get the smell out of the car somehow. going great so far....i do have an arsenal of boots and gloves though. had to dust some stuff off...

meh. i'm not a sleet fan. the only time i like a sleet storm is during a ratter winter when nothing much else has happened. other than that i don't wanna see it.

see, you shoulda gone to binghamton....woulda been cheaper too....

well, i'm baking cookies.

i remember it being around mlk day, as i was off.

this just keeps getting worse. it is reminding me of jan 94. iirc we expected lots of snow then too; didn't get it, but got the ice.

it was more of an ice storm, with the few inches freezing solid, you could not get the ice off car windows it was too thick. with no home depots around yet, you could not get salt, table salt, kitty litter or sand. i got stuck in a parking lot on the ice spinning in circles and had to be pulled off by a passing tow truck.

they don't have the ocean nearby, so perhaps that matters

i remember it. snowed for like ten minutes then flipped. but it also had zr, causing serious accidents. sucked. but we had some great snows later on.

it will mean frankly some people will have heart attacks or slip and fall. of those, some won't make it. but that's life. i remember in feb 2010 some guy was shoveling and a tree limb fell and killed him; it was a very heavy dense snow.

i think some areas will get those amounts, and with sleet on top removal will take time. but those are not the most densely populated areas, at least in nj. the rest of us will be ok. but sleet is deceptively dangerous. its not only this storm, i will read headlines now about storms in other parts of the country and it will be like 6 inches. come on folks...

the poster knows his stuff. and he has seen this before many times, so have i. i have been saying the ceiling around here has been about 6 in my lifetime for these kinds of events, however, nws seems convinced a wall of heavy snow is coming first, making this one different. i have seen a foot of snow pile up really fast a few times, jan 1987 comes to mind, a disaster on a weekday no one was ready for. hand over my heart i expect 5-6 out of this out here, but won't discount experts who think it could be more.

Superintendent is a power position like the mayor; I had one who sent home flyers saying they don’t close for snow in places like Michigan so we don’t either. We’d be open when no one else was. Half the teachers would be out and I had to cover their classes and mine. So I decided to call out as well. Was glad to leave that district.

With remote learning the old snow days may be a thing of the past. I stopped paying attention when my youngest graduated in 2020 and I retired. Now I follow storms mostly because there ain’t much to do in winter. 2 hours ago I thought we were back on track now the gfs is showing a lot of sleet, which for the record I still think is the outcome down here; single digits and lots of sleet. By here I mean just west of the city.

it seems some people don't think it was enough of a step. but comments are all over the place.

in times like this, i always think how the vast majority of folks will be relieved not to get all that snow. 8-12, if that happens in cnj, would still be considered way too much snow for many people.

given the hype, this is almost a certainty. big snows in the interior just aren't as sexy as big snows in the big cities, and icy weather in the south is just a disaster i don't wish on them. it really is almost futile until close to game time trying to predict this stuff.

I’m confused too… I would consider 3-6 a big letdown but not 8-12. Now I’m on record not buying 8–12. But I would consider it a good storm.

my guess is it takes longer, in their view, to flip. something you can't really predict exactly.

pike's peak was a pimple back then.....

cnj. raritan river, rutgers area.

i noted earlier my ceiling over the years for this kind of setup was about 5-6 inches in my area. at least for the 35 years i've been paying attention.