weatherpruf

Late to the party as always. What gets me is we can all see that it's been a crap setup all winter but we still want to believe we can thread the needle somehow, because ya know, it's always possible. I'm still hoping to get something outta this, 4-8 would still be a win in my book. But the way some here talk, it looks like nothing at all is on the table for lots of us. Can't say that yet.

Didn't that storm have blocking though? I mean it wasn't moving that fast IIRC....

Starting to think it is more fun watching the fantasy solutions than the actual storms, which can be a pain in the neck. Never played fantasy sports, maybe we should have a fantasy storm club....

I think you are onto something and without blocking it just doesn't cut it. Let's see if we can wind up with anything significant, though I'm starting to doubt even that....

4 inches this year is a major storm for us.....

I don't care if it's the best model in the world, if it is alone it can't be relied on. I'm reading here the trends are all east. By this juncture it is unlikely there are massive swings west. So let's see if we can get anything at all out of this or if this has been another massive waste of our time. Speaking for north central NJ and west here, heck even the city.

Well it keeps going east. So that should tell us something. Not expecting a big storm here over in NJ at this juncture ( at least not in my area ) the question is do we get flurries-3 or get at least a 6-7 of powder out of this? Anything more would be gravy at this point. Again, doesn't seem to be the year for big snows in this neck of the woods. With my limited knowledge, I have a bias against winters with little blocking, though I do understand it isn't always needed.

It is all of that.

They break, as do snowblowers. Things are made like junk today. I bought two snow shovels last year and they have already started falling apart; A new craftsman needed a new carbuerator when it was brand new. Used twice last year, it now needs another new carbuerator. Thankfully I have a better machine and an electric toro for backup.

Any mention of accumulating snow in my parts results in increased supermarket sales. At 12+ it is panic.

That would be a storm for the ages. That was forky's quote just before Jan 2016. I will wait for his pronouncement....FWIW I don't believe this will be the solution. If it is, people will be freaking out, and justifiably so ( I'm talking about the normal snow fearing public here ). In fact, they may be already. Anyone been to the market yet?

Always thought the second film was the best, and they just waited til the third to give Jackson the award....back to the storm.....

Aren't we sort of thinking the Euro is suspect and unreliable? I'm kinda discounting it; isn't it alone at this point? Serious question, not being a troll. Just got up.

I'm just west of SI and these kinds of setups do make a big difference; it's unlikely we see nothing at all, but will probably end up with a smaller event of 3-6 or 4-8,but in a year like this we'll have to be happy with it. A few miles south of me in Monmouth will also make a big difference. I'm too far north and west for these storms, too far south and east for the interior storms. Way it is here.

Ya know, there's actually a weenie stand on the corner of my street a few houses down.

As a former writing instructor, and journalist, I think it is more that it's just not part of their training. Science majors have credit intensive programs and there's little time for classes in communications and such; the most they are likely to get is a required expo writing class, and maybe a social science class.

I feel your pain....been burned lots of times in these setups. Best we can say now is it looks like it will snow in our backyards. How much is an open question.

That may very well be the case.

Sagan was a local boy, went to high school 5 mins from my location.....but he never talked about it much....Rahway HS ( yes the same one Milton Friedman went to ).

That's exactly what I thought he meant.

This is very true, but it's also got to do with funding. But many people, myself included, don't have a good understanding of the science ( so I basically just trust the experts ) and I think, as the spouse of a scientist and the father of two in training, that the scientific community does bear some responsibility here, because they tend to lack patience with those who have trouble keeping up. Also science by its nature is ever evolving; so what might be time honored practice today could change tomorrow. People have trouble with that.

What do you mean by big totals? I'm not unhappy with 10-12 and don't need the hassle of 20+....but 2-4 would be a bit of a letdown...I'm just west of SI, Middlesex County, not really a big snow area, especially with these east storms, that triangle of inner Raritan Bay its just a tad west for that kind of storm, but close enough to see something....again, this is days away and nothing would surprise me, even a complete whiff here...

Depends.....on the company you might have....could turn into a memorable long weekend. Just sayin.

I'm still thinking 4-8 in Middlesex/Union counties based on the look of this and history. Still a decent snow in a year like this, but nothing to get all excited about. Still could see nothing at all. I don't expect a massive move west at this point to put us in the best snows. But a 4-8 would still be nice.

I'm thinking some of that is snark....48 inches? This isn't the Rockies.....