coastalplainsnowman

6 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Year round DST was bound to happen, over the past few decades the amount of time we had Standard Time has been getting shorter and shorter.

The writing was on the wall.

 

The areas which will hate this the most are the western edges of the timezones.  Columbus, Ohio, for example, will have roughly an *8:50AM* sunrise for most of December/January.  Are there studies which really show that pretending it is later than it is all year will have a statistically significant effect on energy usage?  Does that outweigh the side effects, such as the legitimate concern that all the kids will be going to school in the dark - the concern that largely squashed this years ago?

On a non-scientific note, if this happens, I'll miss the early sunsets in the fall/winter.  It was always a sign that snow/holidays/family season was upon us.  Plus the Christmas lights can be on as early as 4PM and be noticeable.

Ramble over.

Unusual look on radar this morning.  Looks like rain developing in opposite directions to the east and west away from us.  Not counterclockwise, but more like building and pulling away in opposite directions.  Looks unusual to me anyway - first time I've seen it at least..

Lord, let it rain, but not yet.

Been hoping for good weather early to mid next week but hasn't looked great.  Didn't realize it reflected a storm close to the coast.  Jumped on here and seeing some signs that it may be strung out and/or OTS?  Unlike the winter, hoping for this trend to continue and that the models don't start to 'bring it back.'  

P.S. If this post has so much wrong in it you don't know where to start, I understand.

Saw this on Twitter and immediately thought of this forum.  I hope it's not true.

The label on the thread is very fitting today

My wife snapped this interesting pic of the sky a short while ago.  Sort of an upside down rainbow overhead in the wispy clouds.  Said photo doesn't do the color justice.  Thought this might be interesting to some folks here.  Have a good day.

7 hours ago, HailMan06 said:

Divide that by 10 and you’ll be right.

Shoot I thought I checked that!  In fairness, those would still be some heavy lanternflies.

1 hour ago, Will - Rutgers said:

i rounded down

lol

180 elephants, at 7,500 lbs each, equals 13.5 million lbs.

If 180 elephants = 1.2 million lantern flies, then each lanterfly weighs 1.125 pounds.

I honestly did this just to get a witty put down from Will.

6 hours ago, Cfa said:

If you told me it was January 7th right now I’d believe you.

1.73” event total so far.

Definitely.  Outside tonight has the feel/smell of a winter storm that was just a bit too warm for snow.

Some rough data (weather underground history for Ronkonkoma LI) supporting the "winter's been starting late and ending late" theme:

2016 - 2021, Median High Temperature:

Week preceding Christmas: 60.5

Week preceding Easter: 64.5

Nowadays it seems that every other day sites like Accuweather will have an Air Quality Alert for NYC metro, often rating it as Poor, and I see similar alerts, though not as frequent, from Upton as well.

I realize the Accuweather thing is recent, but I don't remember seeing so many alerts from NWS either, say 5-10 years ago.  I don't remember alerts or official warnings like this other than an occasional 'smog' alert once in a blue moon in the 80s/90s.

Is this just because we run more sensitive tests now, and that if we had today's tests running 30 years ago they'd be lighting up every day?

23 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

sun angle season

 

Underrated post.  This is freaking cool.

Was just reading NOAA's definition of a blizzard, because reading through this thread and the clips from 1982 I was surprised to see that the April '82 storm was actually a blizzard, which apparently it was around here.   Saw that the definition of a blizzard on NOAA's site includes the line  "Sustained wind OR frequent gusts to 35 miles an hour or greater." (my emphasis.)  

How is 'frequent' defined?

13 hours ago, rclab said:

 

Good evening. With a good partner Anthony, warmth will always be with you. As to S19’s suggestion, I looked up the area and below is one of the many houses available and a climate abstract. My dream was to live on the Maine coast. When you and your love are established, perhaps you can become reverse snowbirds. My time for dreaming is over. Yours can still come true. Stay well, as always.

My favorite part of this is how the realtor pics of the house show it just buried in snow.  On LI, the realtor would do anything to get a pic of the house on a sunny spring or summer day, almost never with snow in the pic.  Here it's like, "That's right, snow.  Deal with it."

Regular reminder that it's pretty impressive that this whole thing was identified on this forum, what, 8 days ago?  Heavy rain turning into a icy, wind-whipped finale, and since at least 5 days ago even the timing pretty well nailed?  You mets and advanced hobbyists here hold yourselves to a high standard I know, but from a layman's standpoint this was really well done.   I always tell people that in winter if you never want to be caught off guard by a potential snowstorm, just check in on this site every now and then.  

12 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Hi-res models are pretty snowy for NYC and even western LI, shows 2-3" in general. 

I'm pessimistic about these "wait for the cold air to come in" storms for snow in NYC and we'll have to deal with dry NW winds but I guess we'll see what happens. Anything of note I'd expect to happen NW of the city. 

Any thoughts on how this compares to Christmas Day 2002?  Up until that storm I had never seen any real 'wraparound snow' follow heavy rain, but that one was pretty awesome - about 6" of absolute paste.   Haven't seen anything remotely close to that storm since then either.

B- here.  Just based on total snowfall and average temperatures it would be a C, but it's tough to give any winter on the south shore of LI a C when we've had a 15+" snowstorm and solid winter weather for all of January. 

Compared to N&W, where expectations and averages are higher, yet the snow totals were lower, the Ds and Cs I'm seeing are justified there.

1 hour ago, Rjay said:

Thanks for sharing -- what's the rationale for the difference?  Surprised that central PA, which (I would think) would be much more acclimated to icing and winter weather in general than, say Long Island, gets a warning at just 1/4", while Long Island needs to be forecast for 1/2"?  Seems like it should be the opposite.

This thread is underrated right now.  The whole 'if a snowflake falls in the woods but no one is awake to see it' riff is pretty funny.

That was fun today.  Facing north at a red light I could see the snow come at me like a wall -  was looking off in the distance about '10 o'clock' and watched the falling/blowing snow move in toward me across an open space rapidly from NW to SE, with blue skies off to the east.  The low clouds ahead of it looked just like a big T storm might.

Foggy AND gusty here.  Fairly rare combination I suppose?  I can't recall ever experiencing both simultaneously, not to this degree at least.

Yeah it feels great out there.  Whatever one's thoughts on this winter so far, once got past our usual Christmastime 60s it hasn't been above 50 much right?  Today reminds me of the old days when a sunny mid 50s day in Feb after nothing like it since December,  feels like early Spring.

This would make two snowy Super Bowl Sundays in a row.