Bubbler86

Thanks, same to you. I frankly thought most of the August and July snow reports were along the same line of our grandparents telling us they walked 5 miles to school in 3 feet of snow and no shoes. But your run down of actual NWS reports makes it a bit more intriguing as to the hows and whys.

We all know the difference in the formation of sleet vs. hail but if the rule is that sleet can be recorded as snow then a valid argument can be made for hail. Take a fall or spring ice pellet. Are we sending up balloons to make sure the ball of ice was formed in the clouds or on the way down? :-). With that said it has hailed a lot more than those occurrences you referenced so I do not think that is the final answer.

Both the 12Z Nam and Icon (in previous runs as well) have a sneaky freeze tonight for some. Icon also has some MA snow next week with some serious back door cold. Highs in the low to mid 30's (Edit-GFS as well. Get your snow tracking pants back on. @paweather's hiatus lasted less than 24 hours)

I would love to see that .1" from July 1930. It was surely .4" per Blizz. I would say that most of those are graupel or some other frozen entity. In theory I can see it raining hard enough any month and having a flake or two reach the ground due to speed of descent if its really cold upstairs.

There were some reports of it snowing in August in York County....in the late 1940's. Will try to dig those up some time. People will argue it was hail or possibly ash.

Well, the GFS trended toward the CMC and lessened the S/E ridge influence with bringing the deepest cold over us the weekend after next. Euro did not budge much. CMC pulled away from it being cold early next week but still brings the goods mid week and beyond. Overall a good night for the coldinista's.

It will be interesting to see what this time has done to us as to the future. RE: less eating out? Exploring parks more, etc...

Yea, I am not saying the punters should be punting just reading the room. Ha.

Interesting post on the MA LR thread from PSU. Maybe I am just noticing it more but it does seem like more people are punting early this year. PSU suggests it is related to the stinker of a winter most of the coastal plain had, especially with busted model/digital snow. I can see that but if I were a real snow lover I would still want snow even if late. I do think there has been a trend of throwing March away the last few years...sun angle, etc...but this year it is coming out more than usual. Maybe Covid fatigue and people wanting to get out (different point but we better hope the variants does not make the fatigue get worse)? The first half of March is arguably a better snow period than the first half of December so the people throwing the month away are probably doing it for personal reasons vs. scientific. I saw one poster say its possible Baltimore may not hit freezing again this season? Wow...

Boy, if it gets to 73 at MDT this week the winter punters will be out in full force!

The CMC has the ridge much farther East than the Op Euro while the EPS Blend has it sort of in between as expected I guess.

Hmm, not this year. The King has taken some time off from pattern recognition. 12Z EPS has a lot of members with a much different result than the OP.

Well that is a drastic difference. like @paweather mentioned, the SE Ridge is the differentiator. CMC vs. EC

You would like Florida Spring swimming. Its always around 72 regardless of air temp. And its clear so no surprise Gator attacks.

Maybe its my years in Florida but water temp under 75 is BRRRRR. LOL

That would make for one cold Atlantic Ocean (or Lake Pinchot!)

It's only 40 here. Give me 15-20 more degrees :-).

I do not have JB's exact statement in front of me but maybe he meant to say all of the US except the east? At least for Mid March. Rest of the US is freezing for last half of March.

Highs in the teens, midday, in N/W Texas mid next week. A taste of SUMMER for us.

It is going to dump the artic down into the S/W USA.

The Ole 'Inland Hurricane in the Dakota's' kick in rear.

We are probably going to have the cold around just need the High to better position itself a bit further North so it allows a SLP to thread the needle late weekend.

Bring a few sheckles. Car of 4 gets a little pricey. The lake and lake walk are so similar that I frequently have to think about which one I am at when walking around it. Greenbrier Hours of Operations: 8 a.m. to sunset Day-use Admission Fee: Memorial Day weekend to Labor Day Weekends and holidays: Maryland residents $5/person; out-of-state residents $7/person Weekdays: Maryland residents $3/person; out-of-state residents $5/person Labor Day to Memorial Day Maryland residents $3/vehicle: out-of-state residents $5/vehicle Weekends in May and September: Maryland residents $3/person; out-of-state residents $5/person

I was referring to the threat for next Weekend. It's not even really a cutter....its a nothing and the High goes Bye.

I am glad I did not save 4000 for the 12Z GFS.