Kinda damned if you do damned if you dont. Need fast but what good are shitty tests?
I dont know if a anybody saw but this was the latest NYS antibody study results from today.
The test is reported to have 93 to 100 percent specificity.
the testing way more limited in early to mid march on the ramp up compared to what is now. So you'd be more likely to miss something then than now. It also would explain the lack of symmetry in the fatality graphs in many places. Better counts on backside then on the front.
The excessive death stats widely reported are pretty hard to ignore imo. Theres also a few preprints out there discussing it. Estimates of 52k in Italy, for example.
Meh. It just seems like someone doesn't like the way flu is counted. They explain their methods on the cdc website. They also call it a "flu burden" which is an idea that flu is contributing to the death not necessarily the only or primary cause.
These antibody tests due seem like a bit of a fool's errand overall...lots of error and thers no confirmation of what level of antibodies confers immunity. I like numbers so they're fun to look at but hard to use them for any sort of policy.
Bergamo is the hardest hit city in the world. They lost 0.57 percent of their entire population.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.15.20067074v2
I've heard ideal is a positive percentage of 3% or less. US is at 12% now , which is clearly better than before with about 200K tests a day, but still missing too much.
I do agree the contract tracing will be difficult. Maybe we can use some of the people unemployed for that? lol idk. I know they discussed the matter here. The provincial govt is suggesting digital contract tracing here (voluntary) through a cell phone app. They mentioned that it would really only be effective through 60 percent compliance. Contact tracing is way more feasible when the numbers are small. When they blow up its basically impossible, which is the case in NY obviously.
If you do it gradually and you have enough contact tracing infrastructure I don't believe you have to get to herd immunity before a vaccine. As long as you keep the Ro under 1 we should be okay. It will be hard, though. That's why New York State is monitoring the transmission rate.
This an extreme position. It's only advocated by the far right. The whole idea of herd immunity as a solution and exposing people to the virus is insane, and not inline with normal health policy whatsoever. I can't believe being supportive of CDC guidelines and the trends like NYS is doing is somehow an indefensible position. Im getting questioned more than you.
Ive already said what we need to do...the thing that's already being done in this country by state governments and the cdc guidelines. Gradually open, test, trace, isolate, monitor...
No, they aren't. There's demonstrable undercounting going on worldwide due to the lack of testing early on in the pandemic and we're at 60K confirmed already with plenty to go, and that's just the first wave with lots of restrictions in place to prevent the numbers I stated above.