RobertSul

Those are cases per million, so they’ve been adjusted for population.

People who get into car accidents, are injured at home, have a sudden medical emergency don't have 1 foot in the grave, and these things can happen at any age, but if the hospitals are overwhelmed, how would they get medical attention? Also, how do you know for sure you don't have a congenital heart disease that wouldn't be further complicated by this disease?

Accountability and Responsibility should be factors.

I believe in preparation. I’m not sure what you mean by partisan, since I was a Republican for 10 years before becoming an Independent.

It’s the difference of going into a country you’ve never been before with a map or no map. One has you prepared, the other has you stumbling in the dark, figuratively speaking.

Or don’t dismantle your federal pandemic response team.

The last major pandemic was 100 years ago - do you expect to be around another 100 years? Not to mention the lessons we’ll have learned combatting this current virus with modern technology will facilitate preparation with future outbreaks.

The reaper doesn’t overwhelm hospital systems all the time. This isn’t an “all the time” scenario we are in.

How often has that overwhelmed hospital systems, though?

The cut-off is when a vaccine is available to 0% of the population.

Yeah. That’s the difficulty. If nothing happens, it’s “lockdown didn’t work!!” If your town is inundated with cases, it’s, “lockdown didn’t work!!”

I think if we lived in a rural area with little to no cases, we’d have a better understanding of their frustration. If they lived in an urban area with a lot of cases, they’d be more sympathetic to ours. It really does come down to personal experiences and where you live right now. Like @RogueWaves, I’m a boots-on-the-ground kinda person, so actually being in a location and experiencing what’s happening around you goes a long way in what opinions you hold.

I don’t think he thinks it’s not a big deal, it seems his belief is that the disease doesn’t justify the government’s reaction. I disagree with that belief, but that’s what the 1st amendment is for.

Sorry I guess I don’t understand what your conversation with another poster has to do with me...

Under ordinary circumstances you’re absolutely right, but these are extraordinary circumstances. Also, Michigan had 2,000 cases a day for a while, yesterday they were down to under 200, so something’s working. People who have 2nd homes could potentially bring the disease to a place where it didn’t previously occur. It’s like spreading a new disease to an Amazon tribe that has no contact with the outside world - they don’t have vaccines or immunity to various diseases, just like people with COVID don’t have access to vaccines and there’s limited immunity, though antibody testing is giving us a better idea as to who would be. In other words: If I’m infected and go to my 2nd home in a town that doesn’t have any cases, wait in line at a convenience store for food that I forgot to bring, and spread it to the people there, suddenly I’m responsible for new cases spreading in that town. What other protections would the citizens of that town have? How would you hold me accountable for spreading disease and death there?

Ah thank you for this! I’m wondering if those factories took extra precautions, or perhaps cases haven’t been as widespread in the western part of the state? Whatever the case, those all look essential except for the financial services? I’m not sure what would happen if the essential ones ended up shutting down.

Sounds like that’d be against the stay-at-home order, then. I don’t see any exceptions being made to factories in the literature, but of course to forcibly shut them down would be governmental overreach and to keep them open would be hypocritical.

I’m not responsible for what other posters post.

I’m having trouble finding any information online that supports this. Do you have any sources?

Thank you for that statistic. So with the social distancing in place, and in only 2 months, we have 6x the amount of deaths that drunk driving causes in an entire year. Also, isolated in this case means “having minimal contact or little in common than others”. In other words: not causing a chain reaction.

I moved back to Mass after living in Michigan for 15 years. But what factories in Michigan were allowed to stay open?

What Michigan factories were allowed to stay open?

If someone drunk driving on the roads led to three other drunk drivers on the roads, and each of those led to another 1-3 drunk drivers on the road and so on, then you’d have a point. Likewise, if COVID-19 was not contagious and was regulated to isolated incidents like in your examples, then we certainly wouldn’t have gone through all this trouble.

Especially as temperatures are warming up, this will be a great alternative. Hopefully they’ll also provide covering for rain.