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37 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Good info. 

Ya, i have said it before, but there needs to be more said about the importance of lifestyle changes with eating, exercising etc.   This is a huge reason why America is having such a tough time with this   The media should be pushing that more than they are (almost none).

People naturally respond to acute problems more than chronic. The MSM has covered plenty on the obesity crisis over the years, and I hate to trigger you, but the former administration even had an initiative that improved nutritional values in school lunches that has since been scrapped for cheaper, unhealthier replacements. 

https://www.fns.usda.gov/pressrelease/002312

34 minutes ago, Jonger said:

Lol @ cases 

In a state of 9.5M.

Let's rob kids of a childhood and ruin livelihoods over that.

What kind of childhood would you have if you knew you spread a disease to your at-risk parents (or guardian grandparents), which either directly killed them or severely affected their health for years to come?

Do you think cases just hit a wall at that number and stop spreading? If a thousand people are infected, that can easily infect tens of thousands more in just a month. 

By TEMPORARILY limiting interactions, you’re greatly lowering the spread, and then normal to semi-normal operations can resume again. No one is saying keep kids learning remotely for the whole school year. This isn’t as linear and one-note as you seem to think it is. 

2 hours ago, Jonger said:

There's talk about moving Michigan back to phase 3 and that would kill face to face school opening. One peek at the data shows this to be a total overstep. 

 

Explain your reasoning. There were 1,167 new cases yesterday. 

25 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Wow! you must be up really really high.  STEM topped out at 38mph

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCTTOLLA31?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash

 

Mt. Tolland is the Mount Washington of Southern New England!

1 hour ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

It’s not.. weenies getting a little carried away in here. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades 

I had a 5th grade teacher who said that a lot (not the weenie part)!

With that said, I think if this were to become a 95mph hurricane, it could be called a “close Category 2”. 

41 minutes ago, weathafella said:

We Hazel lite.....

Hazel lite, 2.5 months early. 

1 hour ago, weatherbo said:

You’re a dick

drink some more 

He spread enough disinformation that people were undoubtedly affected in negative, irreparable ways. Yes, it’s tragic that he died, but the tragedies his bad advice has generated will never make the news. 

4 hours ago, weatherbo said:

87/74 currently.  This is the highest DP I've experienced here in the north during my 8 years.  Feels awful. 

Wow @ MQT

 

 

At least the wind chill is only 90 degrees!

6 hours ago, Stebo said:

I'm not saying ceasing life though. But I don't see how a trip to Florida right now is remotely necessary. If you need to vacation, vacation locally, we have plenty of wonderful places here.

I understand what you’re saying. It’s a very touch-and-go situation. I think as long as people are wearing masks, having their temperatures taken before boarding, and the planes are vigorously decontaminated, that flying should be okay. 

24 minutes ago, tamarack said:

It's all 3 NNE states.  Bridgton set the Maine record at 105 (twice) and the VT peak is also 105.  Also surprising is that except for always-high-minima ASH (and one morning in Franklin, NH) temps would fall into the 60s after all those 100+ afternoons.  I'd guess WNW or NW winds with modest dews and downsloping - for a week and a half!

Edit:  If that 76F low at PWM holds, I think it ties for their warmest morning on record.

I’m somewhat surprised that Portland’s never had a low temperature over 76 degrees! 

10 hours ago, IWXwx said:

I know that this is not a political thread, but alarms should be raised with the White House's order that the Corona data sent by hospitals go to them rather than the CDC. Months before an election and a political entity is trying direct the conversation. Just wow.  How transparent is this ploy? How are Americans supposed to be honestly informed if the narrative is controlled by a politician.?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200715&instance_id=20323&nl=the-morning&regi_id=132190987&segment_id=33439&te=1&user_id=6c0c6198ea2aad1257a6d55b6ad8e814

Sorry for the political rant. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Reminds me of the $500 Billion in small business stimulus that had oversight eliminated back in March. People still don’t know where all that money went. 

 

10 hours ago, Jonger said:

I use a TON of dry ice with my business. With that said, I have a co2 meter that I keep in the building with the dry ice and I have been in 5,000 ppm co2 for extended times. You usually have trouble catching your breathe and get fatigued. I'm not weighing in on mask induced co2 issues, just clarifying what symptoms are more common.

That’s pretty crazy. Do you go out afterwards and just immediately take in a big gulp of air? 
 

7 hours ago, Sidewinder said:

 

Never in my life would I have thought that someday people could be made to believe that breathing their own CO2 on an extended basis would be considered healthy and safe. Just incredible. 

Confusion, muscle twitching and loss of consciousness are all symptoms of excessive carbon dioxide. Do you think a surgeon, who’d require surgeon-like precision,  would experience those symptoms while wearing a mask for hours on end?

4 hours ago, Jonger said:

Are you sure compromised immune systems aren't more prone to catching the disease initially? Symptoms like coughing would probably spread the disease like wildfire compared to someome asymptomatic.

You mean like older people, which Japan has an abundance of? 

46 minutes ago, Jonger said:

Japanese have low prevalence of heart disease, diabetes and obesity in general. As someone in the science field, do you really think that's apples to apples?

 

That would allude to lower death rates, not lower transmission rates. The median age in Japan is 47.3, vs. U.S.A’s 38.2.  That’s a big difference. 

Also:

Japan has 149 cases per million, total.

USA has 8,571 cases per million, total. 
 

1 hour ago, RogueWaves said:

Sooo, in your mind, since they got that wrong they get everything wrong?? "Even a broken clock is right twice a day." One of our fave sayings around here, lol.

I mean, you’re right that I shouldn’t base an entire website on a few pieces of faulty news (another look shows they don’t believe that CO2 is a greenhouse gas), but also the fact that surgeons always wear masks at the operating table lends credence to their effectiveness. There’ve also been many anecdotes of entire floors of hospital staff wearing masks and having a very low infection rate compared with staff on separate floors who didn’t wear masks and had a high infection rate. 
 

Also, Japan hasn’t been hit as hard despite how urbanized/densely populated/advanced aged of a country they are - which has been attributable to them being a very mask-friendly society. 

11 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

So, as said, this is was a comment posted on a you-tube video. People rarely use their real names. The Mr. Kalani identified in the opening section could've been his real name or the poster had simply obtained it elsewhere; wasn't clear. I work in industry where PPE is frequently used during manufacturing processes and governed by OSHA regulations. Nothing written in that strikes me as suspect or wacko. It states the intended uses for certain mask types and their known limitations for any other purpose. Just making some more information available to take into consideration, that's all. 

This link is about some scientific studies about the efficacy of masks and respirators in preventing spread of viruses such as C-19. Hope that helps.

https://technocracy.news/censored-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covid-19-social-policy-and-why-face-masks-dont-work/

Technocracy.news promotes the theory that vaccines cause autism. Hard pass. 

1 hour ago, Jonger said:

Well, you're down to about 10 days before the spike should hit these states. So far nadda. 

The elderly and immune compromised people should quarentine and the rest of us get back to life.

People need to wear masks if that’s going to be the case. It’s such a simple thing that prevents spread AND helps the economy. It’d win-win for society. There shouldn’t be a cultural battle about this. 

2 hours ago, Jonger said:

This has little to do with the masks for me. This about limiting business activity and injecting fear into society for something very few need to fear. 

So the Republican governors of Florida and Texas closed all their bars for something that very few need to fear? 

33 minutes ago, Jonger said:

This is going to destroy our way of live just to give people with 1 foot in the grave a bit of extra time on earth.

I'm in Mackinaw city right now, it's clear that half of these businesses are going to be completely put out of business. This is just a small view into what's going to happen if we keep going with these restrictions.

Total lockdown works in some cultures and places, but it won't work here. Almost nobody wears a mask outside once you venture away from larger cities.

Just let it rip and let's build herd immunity and move on. Some people will still wear masks and stay home, but most won't. Truthfully, I would be shocked if I didn't contract it myself already.

Florida and Texas just had to shut down bars; the biggest hospital in Texas is at ICU capacity and they’re expecting it to be unsustainable in the coming weeks, which will lead to more deaths among not-so-susceptible portions of the population who would’ve survived with treatment. 
 

If 95% of people wore masks, not only would this get stamped out to the point that hospitals won’t get overwhelmed, but businesses would increasingly attract more frivolous spending among the population. You can’t force people to go out and consume if they feel unsafe. By diminishing the chance of spread, you’re also increasing consumer confidence to spend. 

Just now, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

This. I work in a grocery store five days a week and we just opened up the bottle room, their "individual freedom" doesn't give me or any of us a choice. 

I’m sorry to hear that man. That must be incredibly frustrating for you.

If masks only protected the person wearing them, the whole “individual freedom” component would be 100% understandable. But masks protect the people *around* you. 

7 minutes ago, wisconsinwx said:

Still too early to feel great, but the trends in Wisconsin the last couple weeks sure have been promising.  Fingers crossed the protests and other gatherings don't mess things up; since May 30 almost every day the percent positive has been between 2-4% and today so far it has dropped below 2% for the first time since the beginning of the outbreak I believe.

Yeah the one silver lining is that these protests have occurred in the month where UV light is at its strongest. 

38 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

 

 

Crazy that it keeps its tropical characteristics into the U.P. and then strengthens into an extra-tropical storm. 

1 hour ago, CheeselandSkies said:

MKX not really buying into that yet. My point forecast for Tuesday night says "winds could gust as high as 30 MPH." Wednesday is "A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 75."

They need to look a little deeper into their Cristobal.

3 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Thing has better wind fields aloft in the Lakes than when it makes landfall.  

 

Would much of that translate to the surface?