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Reminder that a seventy degree day is more likely in this current setup than snow. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

I had just noticed that. Yesterday had the entire mid-week to weekend in the 50s. Gone. 52 on Thursday is the topper. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

I do. You pussy. Put on a pair of Lululemon under your skirt and get out there. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Fuck off with your correctness Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

It's over. I think everyone has accepted it. We're approaching a few anniversaries and the final process of the punt, when the ball actually leaves the punter's boot, is posting pictures and taking trips down memory lane. Any self-respecting banter thread would be full of posters shitting all over each other instead of on the drapes, but I think the MA thread has too many Farvas and not enough Macs. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

I see there weren't any 2 AM posts. Did the Euro finally cave to reality? Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

The models at this point are like tits on a nun. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Mexico or Pike county? Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

That is some Montreal-level ice. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Mow on Saturday, you coward lol Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

From psuhoffman on the MA "Is it ever going to snow again?" thread. My eyes dried out reading this, but my god. Get that guy in here more often. @Ji You know I am not a climate crusader on here. My concern (on here) is only related to one specific thing on here and that is our snowfall. And it's related to 3 specific factors (Pac Hadley Cell expansion, MJO changes, and the prevalence of the SE ridge) that have all been linked to the recent warming SST's. If it makes you feel better you can pretend its a cyclical thing and this recent SST warming is not at all related to AGW. I don't need to go there as when it comes to my discussions on here it is 100% related to our snowfall and factors impacting it whether they are cyclical or a longer term trend is irrelevant to how they impact us RIGHT NOW. If you read to the end of this there is a nugget you might even like, I promise! @MDScienceTeacher I do not think the couple degrees of warming in the atmosphere is primarily to blame for our struggles. What I think is having a bigger impact are 3 specific side affects of warming. Specifically the warming waters. 3 affects of that are directly impacting our snowfall in a negative correlation imo. 1) The expanding indo-pac warm pool is affecting the MJO in a way hostile to our snowfall. Due to the impacts of warmer waters there the MJO is being suppressed in phases 1-2 and enhanced it phases 3-5. Phases 1-2 correlate to troughs in the eastern US and phases 3-5 correlate to an eastern ridge. 2) The warmer waters in general are correlated to the expansion of the pacific hadley cell. This is having 2 negative impacts. It is encouraging a central pacific ridge which sets up a hostile wavelength for cold in the eastern US, and its shifting the whole thermal boundary in the Pac north, which means when we do get a somewhat hostile flow off the pacific, the air is even warmer. Pac puke is getting worse. Worse than that I see signs that even a mix of pac and continental polar air, a mix that used to work for us, is becoming hostile because the pac part of that equation is so warm it dominates the equation. 3) The warming Gulf and Atlantic waters have been correlated with enhancing the SE ridge. Any wave approaching across the CONUS has more heat to draw upon in the southerly flow ahead of it. This will push the boundary north and pump the ridge changing the storm path further north. All 3 of these factors are in a feedback loop working against us. All 3 in tandem are enhancing the SE ridge and pushing the boundary north. The first 2 are affecting what kind of airmasses are likely to even be available over North America. Together I think these 3 specific factors, which are side affects of the recent warming, are severely hurting our snow prospects here. @cbmclean @jayyy I can't say for sure exactly how much these factors have degraded our longer term chances for snow and how much have been a convergence of a cyclical down period with these CC issues. But here is my best educated guess. I do think we have had a relatively unfavorable period that would have been a down cycle in any era. But I also think this down period is worse because of these factors. Much worse. I also think the last up period was already somewhat suppressed here. We did not do as well in the last 2 "snowy" periods in the early 2000s and early 2010's as places a little colder and less latitudinally challenged. We decoupled for example with places like NYC. What I mean is...there was always a pretty consistent relationship between DC or Baltimore and some cities that got more snow in that they should, over a set period, get 30% more snow. Then suddenly they were getting 75% more snow! And it happened over 2 decades! I don't think that was a fluke...we were already not taking as much advantage of the last 2 snowy cycles as colder places were. I think that is likely to continue. There will probably be another "snowy" cycle ahead but there is a real chance for us it will be muted and yes we will do better than we have been...I don't think DC will continue to average 7" a season, but maybe in the next snowy period DC averages 15" instead of 20 or 25" in past 7 year snowy periods. The reason for my thoughts on this are I do think we will get years where the dominant pattern is so favorable it can offset these negative factors I listed above. But those factors will still fight and so we might still lose out on some snow we might have got before those factors were all lined up against us. But will a year like 2003 and 2010 suddenly be awful with like 5", I doubt that, god I hope not. My guess is the really good years will still be really good. And I do agree with @brooklynwx99 that there will be instances where warming enhances our snowfall and we might get a 20" snowstorm that would only have been 12" in the past...but I think on the whole that is not worth it and these changes are a net negative. We are hurt way more than we are helped. @Ji @Maestrobjwa @WxUSAF here is one nugget of hope...I have read a study that hypothesizes that as the oceans continue to warm as a whole...eventually the affects of the indo-pac warm pool will be muted and the longer term impact of warming might be to enhance MJO waves into the central and eastern pacific which are cold phase locations. I obviously had no part in this study but it makes logical sense to me. Right now one part of the ocean has warmed faster and is enhancing convection in places we don't want it. But as the whole ocean warms more the overall impact could just be a stronger wave in general which would make it more likely these waves make it into phase 7-8-1, which historically are the hardest locations for MJO waves to sustain. This could be a net benefit to us at some point in the future assuming the whole thermal profile of the northern hemisphere isn't too wrecked by that point for it to matter. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Cancel the motherfucker now. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

If that stupid rat sees his shadow, he should be cancelled. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

At this point, let's just get warm. This winter is finished. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

LMFAO Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

The way this is worded made me think of the scene in Borat where he discusses traveling to capital city on Sundays to "watch a ladies while they make a toilet." It's a sunny, cold midday here. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

On the street, we call it "seed." Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Picked up about an inch overnight. I will assume I am the "haves" of this subforum and I can promise you, I'm probably nowhere close to 50% up here. I have seen some bad winters in my time between living in the Ridge and Valley Huntingdon, the Cumberland and Lower Susquehanna valleys, and now whatever you want to call this place I live now, but this one kinda beats all. I'd probably be raging hourly on Blizz's optimism and calling him a wishcaster at this point if I still lived in Palmyra. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

That picture looks like it could have been from Air Florida Flight 90. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Do not want to go outside in Chicago. Unless your skin is made of kevlar. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

I spent this past weekend dicking around with my time machine. It's been down since that time I went back and tried to stop the birth of Christ. I got it running. In fear of being stuck in some shithole timeline like 2016-2020 again, I decided to play it safe and went a week out. Upon my triumphant return, I am happy to provide you with a weather report from this coming weekend. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Note the date: February 5... Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Ripping snow. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Snow picking up in intensity here. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

Schools up this way closed today YESTERDAY. Pre-Online learning, this is when school boards started distrusting the weatherman and would subsequently send busses out on ice the next time out. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk