tamarack

4 hours ago, scoob40 said:

Does this map put both Dryslot and Tamarack in Severe drought ?

Jeff is near the moderate/severe border but I'm in moderate.  However, the Sandy River is extremely low, meaning in the zero-to-5th percentile range.  Carrabassett is in the same category.

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

I just have to ask…I get HI(tropical and all) but why NH Tom? 

MWN hit -47 during that early Feb 2023 blast (with gusts to 144 mph).  I'd earlier found another -47 set in January 1934 but without the site, so maybe a rad pit, maybe not.

15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I think the point has! Been missed this whole time. . It is fake because it is not a cold airmass. It drops because of low dew points and dry air, just as it warms rapidly . A great example is the desert. It may drip into the 30’s/40’s, but rises to 90’s/100’s. Is that a cold airmass or a hot airmass? No it’s a fake environment in both cases 

My cucurbits and tomatoes missed the point as well.  It's possible that the record lowest temperatures in 48 of the 50 states (all but HI and possibly NH) were "fake".

22 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

98 was an all timer for most….that gave everybody up that way their fill…an ice storm like that will hold you over for a generation or two. Quebec was absolutely devastated. 
 

Wasn’t 97-98 a Super Nino? 

From what I've gleaned from here, ENSO since 1950 had 3 very strong Ninos - 82-83, 97-98 and 15-16.  That last was the least snowy of 28 winters here.

One of the oddest phenomenon in the 1998 storm occurred in the MWN area.  The mountain observations included their highest January temp during the storm (since beaten IIRC), and Gorham had mainly cold rain.  In between at 1500-2500 ft asl, trees were destroyed by ice.
Another weirdness was observed in West Gardiner, where the telephone cable had a line of discrete icicles.  Falling trees and breaking poles caused the cable to twist, first pointing the vertical-formed 4-5" icicles toward about 8 o'clock, then after another inch formed, twisting it to about 10:30, producing a long parade of hockey-stick icicles pointing at the sky.

3 hours ago, DirtySnowDen said:

Personally, I think an Icestorm is due. Cannot tell when or where, but I think we are due.

As already noted, same idea with hurricanes.

Personal significant ice storms:
Jan 1953 NNJ:  1-1.5", every tall tree lost limbs or snapped completely, lost power for 6 days.
Dec 1970 NNJ:  0.7-0.8", took out some large branches, short power outage.
Dec 1983 Fort Kent:  Similar to 12/70.
Jan 1998 Gardiner:  1.5"+, possibly the widest area with heavy heavy damage, outage.  We lost power 4 days, phone 13 days.

Other than those, none even reaching 1/2" - nothing bigger than 1/4" since '98.
 

2 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

I’m not going to get angry….but there’s nothing fake about it.  Is it radiational? Absolutely.   But not fake.  
 

When it snows only at elevation, is it fake snow?  I think we know the answer to that.  So when I see fake cold….gonna push back every time.  Such a stupid term…you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.  
 

Trees, plants, animals and people don’t know the sensible difference if it’s 29 at the surface, and 36 at 1000ft. 

Neither gardens in September nor car batteries in January believe the cold is fake.  And the transpirationally boosted dews feel tropical even when the open hilltops are more pleasant.  Citing "fake" as pejorative is a bit silly.

17° this morning, ice on the washtub 3/8" thick.  Time to swap it with the snow scoop for the under-porch spot.

54 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Stunner. Perfect day to collect some firewood. Big old black locust. Throw it right in the stove. 

 

Along with white oak, hickories and hophornbeam, it's tops for BTU.  Only the HH is available around here.

14 hours ago, powderfreak said:

I’ll say I’ve been fringed in a lot of SNE storms but that’s the only one I’m still jealous of.  We got 1.5” lol.  What a remarkable event.

Forecast for us was 10-16, got 4.5" of slop with a brief power outage.  Two days later the forest inventory contractor and I were checking field crew accuracy at Rangeley Bald Mountain, and the melting snow pelted us with icewater for the 8 hours we were out there.  I've had nicer days.

We actually had some clouds yesterday, an uncommon phenomenon lately.

62/22 yesterday, only the 9th "forty" in 29 Octobers, and the coldest of the bunch.  The others mostly had highs in the 70s.  And the first clouds in 4 days this morning (but nothing falling from them).

Stick season here, though the 2 nearby oaks and some understory beech have some brown hangers-on.

4 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s easier and more common to get below 32 here in May than Roctober 

Not here.  Low month temp in May ranges between 21 to 30, median 26.  For October it's 11 and 26, median 20.  Hilltop vs. rad pit?

Touched 19 this morning.  On 29 Octobers we've gone below twenty 14 times, though only 3 times in the most recent 11 years.  Didn't check the washtub ice until 10:30, still 1/4" thick.

17 hours ago, dendrite said:

Depends on snowpack. I rarely get much frozen ground here. Mostly areas where I clear snow. 

I maintain a cleared trail from driveway to the toolshed, about 50 feet, and when the snow goes away in April that path is 4-6" higher than the surrounding lawn.  Takes a couple months for that elevated track to (mostly) settle back.

Coldest October morning here is 11, on the 31st in 2020.  In Fort Kent we reached 7 on the 30th in 1978.  That year had our coldest readings in August (28), October and November (-12)

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

The northern part of “The County” is a very special place.   

Lots of snow when we lived there - Jan 1, 1976 thru Oct 25, 1985
                 Snow     Top depth
1975-76   *132.5"      36"           *Includes 39.0" at FK co-op Oct-Dec 1975.  Top depth is from the co-op.
1976-77     186.7"      54"
1977-78     121.8"      30"
1978-79     128.2"     33"
1979-80      81.8"      36"
1980-81     108.5"      25"
1981-82     185.8"      38"
1982-83    105.5"      24"
1983-84    171.0"       65"
1984-85    113.8"       34"

4 hours ago, dailylurker said:

Hell, even way down here in Maryland, 10 miles from the Chesapeake Bay we've had frost. Pretty early for around here. My winter home on Tug Hill seems like it had frost in September lol

At our rad pit microclimate we've had September frosts 25 of 29 years.  The others came in October.  When we lived in Fort Kent we had a frost on July 31, 1978 - wounded our pumpkins and killed the neighbor's beans.  That August we had a hard freeze at 28.

13 hours ago, powderfreak said:

1,100ft here and frozen solid nightly.

Narrow it down to like 950ft to 1,025ft .

Lasts a long time in the shade.

I'd guess that almost all NNE sites other than some tidewater places have had a frost, and most a freeze.  95% leaf drop around here.

8 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah I have a lot of oaks here locally. Strong trees but ugly regarding foliage. I do have a couple on the property that change to red which is nice.

The red oak sapling outside the window has a nice but not vibrant burgundy color but the 24"/90ft red oak 50 yards away is going toward brown.  The only bright red oaks I see in this area are the pin oak street trees in Farmington - moderately common in the mid-Atlantic but not native to Maine.  Jeff has a couple of them in his yard; haven't heard how they've colored this fall.

Other than the oaks and some dark yellow understory beech, we're in stick season.  Many of those beech leaves will turn tan and hang on until bud break in May.

22/25/27 lows the most recent 3 mornings.

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

The last accumulating snow here in October was 6 years ago….so it’s not all that normal, despite the BS. 

Even at my latitude it's uncommon - only 6 of 28 Octobers have had measurable snow, most recently in 2018.  Elsewhere in Maine - Gardiner had measurable in 2 of 12 Octobers, Fort Kent 8 of 10 but only 4 with 1"+ and none more than 4".  BGR 1973-75 had only traces, though the Maritimes had a blizzard on 10/20-21/1974.
We also had 0.7" on 10/26/1962 in NNJ.

4 hours ago, kdxken said:

I'll take the weather underground's forecast. 

 

October is the wettest month here, currently 5.39" and the only month over 5".  Thru today we've had 1.95".  After April/May/June came in a bit AN, we've gone back to dry.

Low of 23 here in the rad pit.

50 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Height of Land was pounding pretty good earlier

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No surprise there at 2,400'. 
In town (new Sharon) had a quick downpour at 11 AM, enough to make small puddles and probably some frozen but I was at the Farmington farmers' market with just windy sprinkles.

New Sweden reported 0.9" at cocorahs.  Probably more at FVE.

3 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

No, we get that.  I think we all feel that way to a point. Who doesn’t want big dog. Right .???  Big Dog anything weather related is exciting. 
 

But I have no issues with 2-4” either.  I appreciate the aspect of it falling and making everything look beautiful.   

In 2007-08 we had 33" from 2-4" events.  Of coarse, we had 23 events total 2"+ that season.

43 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I like snow on Xmas, but *unpopular opinion* one of my favorite Xmas mornings was 2015 when I watched my niece and nephews open gifts and then I sat out on the porch and had my coffee in the warm sun. 

We're not fans of brown ground at Christmas, especially when the grandkids are looking to go sledding.  In 28 Christmases here we've had 5 with no snow on the ground, also 8 with 10"+ pack.

53 minutes ago, dailylurker said:

I'm down here in Maryland. My home page is the Mid Atlantic. I'm moving up to the Tug Hill for the winter on Dec 1. I'll be just south of Barnes Corner. I'm going to be chasing blizzards and observing intense lake effect snow bands. Is their a specific group/subforum dedicated to lake effect? I'm looking forward to joining you fokes this winter. I'm ready to chase some supercharged Nino monsters this winter. 

Enjoy your 300" of fluff.

12 hours ago, codfishsnowman said:

This was the snow I heard about in Maine I guess yesterday but it was way up in the northwest I guess. Anyone get an inch?

New Sweden (just north from CAR) reported 1.0".

1 hour ago, vortex95 said:

@ineedsnowand @CoastalWx immediately rushed to see what *exactly* happened in SNE in 2000-01 winter!

Great winter here, especially the pack.  Still 47" deep on April 1.  (Not foolin' - had 19" on 3/30-31.)