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Posts posted by Powerball
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12 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:
Are you referring to Nov 11, 2019?
Yes, that's the one I'm thinking of.
But I still could be remembering the track wrong.
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I could be remembering things wrong, but I seem to recall the track for that storm this past November being similar to what the models are showing for this system.
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50 minutes ago, WaryWarren said:
The average American has the memory of a goldfish.
Indeed.
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Michigan extends mask order, capacity limits amid surge
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Worldwide COVID-19 death toll tops a staggering 3 million
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/17/worldwide-covid-19-death-toll-tops-a-staggering-3-million.html
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9 minutes ago, Snownado said:
It's definitely been a chilly April for much of the Eastern US, particularly from TX to FL.
If you consider the areas with positive temperature departures on that map "chilly," I'm afraid to know what you would consider "warm."
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27 minutes ago, KokomoWX said:
This article was posted in a local Facebook community forum and people are freaking out. All I can say is good grief.
Par for the course.
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1 hour ago, TimB84 said:
This “fitness can prevent severe covid” debate is turning into the new “masks can make you sick.” At least this one has more legitimacy, but we’re beating a dead horse here.
Agreed.
We get it. A healthy lifestyle can reduce the risk of contracting COVID and experiecing severe symptoms.
But we don't have to keeping hearing it 27 times over again from the same person(s), who in all truthfulness is probably just trying to humblebrag.
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After issuing a stay-at-home order last week, it seems officials in Ontario are considering more restrictions as a string of COVID-19 records have been smashed as cited by their chief medical officer.
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4 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:
...the "data" isn't being hotly disputed...
The conclusion about herd immunity by UCL (that is also being repeated here) based on that data is what's being disputed.
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35 minutes ago, mattb65 said:
Edit: you said there isn't data on this, only conjecture, that's wrong, see paragraph 1.
First of all, there are notable differences culturally and demographically between countries like the UK and US to suggest what happens there will also happen here.
But also, the "data" you're referencing is being hotly disputed by scientists.
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3 minutes ago, TimB84 said:
I just feel like this will fan the flames of vaccine hesitancy, and this has already been a bad week in that regard.
We can't have it both ways.
In this thread, there was at least one complaint about the government not being transparent enough with the general public about vaccine reserch.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ensure everyone has the expectation that the currently recommended 2 doses may not be enough for protection as more research is done, so that people are prepared if that day comes.
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There's another article from CNBC this morning where it's reported Dr. Fauci also said Booster shots may be needed.
He goes into detail as to why:
Quote...Recent data suggests that Pfizer and Moderna’s Covid vaccines provide protection for at least six months, Fauci said.
Pfizer released data on April 1 showing that its mRNA vaccine is highly effective six months after the second dose.
Moderna said Tuesday that its Covid vaccine, which uses similar technology, was more than 90% effective at protecting against Covid and more than 95% effective against severe disease up to six months after the second dose.
“We know for sure it’s effective for six months and highly likely that it will be effective for considerably longer period of time,” Fauci said.
The Pfizer study only measured to the six-month mark, and more research needs to be done to determine when or how vaccine protection wanes.
“The way to get the answer is to just follow people closely enough to determine when that level of efficacy or protection diminishes, both with regard to the level of the antibodies as well as clinical data with regard to breakthrough infections,” Fauci said. (Breakthrough cases refer to when people who are vaccinated get infected.)
Ultimately, “if it turns out [to last] a year or a year and a half, we very well may need to get booster shots to keep up the level of protection,” Fauci said.
Protection could end up lasting two to three years, but the point is that boosters are still on the table as a possibility, he told Politico on April 5...
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7 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:
Do you think an alarm bell goes off when herd immunity is reached?
All we know is the CDC has said:
1. Herd immunity will be achieved when a percentage of the *TOTAL* population is fully vaccinated.
2. That percentage is still known.
Anything beyond what the CDC has said is conjecture not based on any scientific evidence about this virus.
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4 minutes ago, TimB84 said:
I don’t immediately suspect a conspiracy. But a lot of people will. You’ve seen from this thread itself how many people throw rationality to the wind when it comes to this vaccine. I’m not saying he isn’t knowledgeable or privy to the issues at hand, but in my opinion he shouldn’t be the communicator of them.
So the bolded is something President Biden will have to clear up with his staff, as he seems to think Pfizer's CEO provides at least some value as a communicator about the vaccine if he invited him to his press conference.
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3 minutes ago, mattb65 said:
I think saying half of all Americans may not get it which includes all those under 16 that aren't eligible is the wrong measure to evaluate.
I'll stick to the measure scientists at the CDC and FDA are using to evaluate when herd immunity is achieved.
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1 minute ago, TimB84 said:
Ah, the optics don’t look quite as bad now that I see the updated article. I think Kessler is a more palatable source than a corporate bigwig is.
Like I said, I'm quite certain the CEO of the 2nd largest pharmaceutical company in the world has frequent enough communications wth our top medical experts (that the general public is not always privy to) to not just be shooting from their hip when making these comments.
To inmediately suspect a conspiracy comes across as paranoid and irrational (intentionally or not).
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55 minutes ago, Powerball said:
The CEO of Pfizer is now suggesting a third dose of their vaccine would be required within 12 months.
Not only that, but a booster shot would possibly be required annually.
Should note, the same article reports David Kessler (Biden's Chief Science Officer) also said that Americans should expect to receive booster shots to protect against variants, although he did acknowledge (as we all know) there's still a lot we're learning about the virus and didn't go into further detail.
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11 minutes ago, TimB84 said:
I agree with this, but let’s remember that Pfizer is a business and isn’t necessarily just producing this vaccine out of the goodness of their hearts. I would argue that it’s fairly likely that a booster is required, but from an optics perspective that information should be provided to the general public by an actual medical expert (in human medicine), not the CEO of one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world (who happens to be a DVM).
Sure, that's why I emphasized his comment was a suggestion.
That said, the medical community hasn't ruled out the possibility either and I'm quite certain the CEO of the 2nd largest pharmaceutical company in the world has frequent enough communications wth our top medical experts (that the general public is not always privy to) to not just be shooting from their hip when making these comments.
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16 minutes ago, TimB84 said:
Interesting that this information is coming from the Pfizer CEO in this respect.
10 minutes ago, TimB84 said:Exactly. Pfizer didn’t do all this work only to produce a vaccine that didn’t require a booster that could allow them to make a killing off of American citizens and our artificially high drug prices.
It is recommended now that we take the Flu shot every year.
If in fact we never achieve herd immunity, a booster requirement could easily be a possibly.
Not everything is a big business conspiracy.
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I'd be interested to see if the individuals who are so gung ho about getting everyone vaccinated so quickly after crying about the lockdowns and mask mandates for the past 1+ year show that same energy if booster shots or additional doses are required several months/years from now.
I tend to think the individuals in question are just using this as a ruse to force a return back to their own normal lives ASAP, and not legitimate ongoing concern about the health of others around them. But that's just my opinion and the cynic in me.
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The CEO of Pfizer is now suggesting a third dose of their vaccine would be required within 12 months.
Not only that, but a booster shot would possibly be required annually.
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Just now, TimB84 said:
50% of adults or 50% of the US population?
The article says only 37% of the *TOTAL* population has received one shot, which is what the CDC reports.
The CDC has also been clear that herd immunity is achieved once a percentage of the *TOTAL population fully vaccinated (although that percentage is still unknown), not just adults.
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April 20-21 late season snow potential
in Lakes/Ohio Valley
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Lools like the NAM might have caved to the GFS. 06z run is notably weaker/SE.
We'll see if that's legit or just a fluke.