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21 hours ago, NEOH said:
Just a bad pattern and some back luck for northeast ohio. WNY and PA have done pretty well. Erie has had average snowfall for the year, and BUF has a +32" snowfall departure.
I checked BUF and was surprised to see they already have 113" as of yesterday. Must've been asleep, .
-PNA pattern still messes things up as the beloved SE Ridge tilts the flow more ENE sending the LES away from us and to NWPA/WNY. Because of the -PNA's persistence, what few lake effect events we've had this year are brief, in and out events before the flow returns to the ENE. Eventually the SE Ridge is amplified by the next Cutter spiking our temps for 12-36 hours with a lot of rain to melt it all away. During Feb., the amped SE Ridge decided to camp out for much of the month.
Also, a -PNA pattern sweeps high pressure into the area as we are in an upper level pattern dominated by flat ridging (SE Ridge), even when it is really cold, thus drying the air at all levels. During most winters, we get in at least a few upper level trough patterns that last several days and rotate little short waves once every 18-36 hours depositing a good bit of LES over much NE Ohio over the duration of said upper level trough.
You can see the 500mb height anomalies for 2/3-3/4 and 12/5/18-3/4/19. The 2/3-3/4 heights are pretty telling.
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3 hours ago, dta1984 said:
3" of very fluffy snow overnight.
I had 3" of fluff too.
NWS CLE was forecasting their usual less than one inch accumulation. I hate that term less than one inch. The old little or no accumulation sounded better. When "less than one inch" or "less than 1/2 inch" is used, to me that has a rubbing your nose in it feel.
End of rant...
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1 hour ago, NEOH said:
It has been an awful winter to say the least. Back to back ratters. And here I thought last year was bad! You would think that CLE would have to hit climo at some point. No where to go but up. One thing we can do without is a cold fall that rapidly cools the lake. November put a dagger in our LES hopes.
Plus the negative pacific north american pattern (-PNA )set up a mostly southwesterly flow that 1) Kept much of the snow well to the north and west of us (Congrats Minneapolis-St Paul) and shunted what little LES to our north an east. Even when temperatures are really cold, wind was out of the WSW. -PNA patterns often cause shear and sweep high pressure too fast for any decent LES, even in WNY.
Good example of a -PNA pattern. From http://www.wisconsinwx.com.
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Looks like we had about 6" of paste in Chesterland. Down here at work in Solon...it looks more like 8" fell. Figures CLE issued an advisory with all the wind and snowfall. Late last night and this morning it looked more like warning conditions.
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16 hours ago, Trent said:
Yeah. It hasn't been a good decade for snow here at all. CLE is running almost a 100" snowfall deficit the past 6 seasons, which is pretty incredible. To put that into perspective, if CLE had 16 more 6" snowstorms the past 6 seasons, there'd still be a deficit!
16-17 33.7" Deficit
15-16 35.4" Deficit
14-15 1.1" Deficit
13-14 17.9" Surplus
12-13 16.5" Deficit
11-12 29.3" Deficit
Total 98.1" DeficitThe 2010s are a far cry from the 2000s when big storms seemed to come once or twice a year. I remember the March 2008 storm well. 20-24" all the way up I-71.
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On 3/22/2017 at 7:01 PM, Trent said:
Here's some data that illustrates how little snow has fallen at CLE the past two seasons:
The past 2 seasons have only seen 67.3" of snowfall at the airport. A normal season would see 68.2", so thus far the past two winters combined into one would still be a below average snowfall season. Sadly, I think the airport measuring has been a bit generous the past two years as small events have been given straight 10:1 ratio totals despite little or no snow actually covering the ground.
The previous lowest back to back seasons at the airport were 1978/79 and 1979/80 when only 77" fell those two years.
Obviously there's still plenty of time for it to snow yet this season, but CLE is still running 9.7" below the previous back to back lowest seasons. Based on the outlooks the next few weeks, there'd have to be a miracle mid/late April blizzard that dumps 10"+ to move out of the bottom.
It really is amazing how little snow activity there's been around these parts the past two years, especially the lack of even a minor synoptic snowfall.
This has been a crappy snow drought...I don't think we've had a decent synoptic event (CLE having 10+") since early 2011. The GHD II storm in 2015 dumped over a foot in many parts of the area, but CLE picked up about 8". I attached a graph of annual snowfall totals for CLE. Red line is at 70" which is close to our annual average of 68.1" The 2010s have been below normal except for 2013-14.
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Hard to tell how much fell IMBY. My front yard has spots where the grass is poking thru, but my back yard has drifts up to 2 feet high. Judging by this storm total map from the NWS, Chesterland picked up from 8 to 10 inches. Overall, the storm under-performed based on the totals maps issued on Monday PM. I think, as often happens, drier air advected in faster than forecast, thus cutting snow totals...not to mention the primary storm getting its energy sucked out by the coastal..
It seems like coastals robbing primary storm systems as they approach NE Ohio have been fairly common over the past several years. This could very well be caused by persistent warmer than normal SSTs off the east coast. When the arctic air comes in from the west, clashing with the abnormally warm ssts, the coastal storms spin up fast and quite often, bomb out.
SSTA Maps for recent Januarys...Notice the SSTAs off of the east coast (circled in red)...
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So far, Chesterland has been bracketed by the larger band about 5mi to our west and a weaker band just to the east. Only flurries over the last few hours w/no accumulation. Hope the situation changes.
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The radar looks awful! Disorganized with Nothing but tiny popcorn snow showers scattered all over the place. Drive a half mile, you are in very light flurries. Go another half mile, its a whiteout. Ugh!
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2 hours ago, NEOH said:
We've probably had close to 6" so far in Chagrin. This fluff is blowing around though. Inversion must be pretty low as the sun is peeking through at times.
Looking out the window, I can actually see a slight blue tinge to the sky overhead.
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Just now, OHweather said:
And the elusive Huron band into Sandusky of all places.
Hopefully it will be over Cuyahoga, Lake & Geauga by tonight. If so, we should have some decent accumulations as there is no sun to fight!
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1 minute ago, OHweather said:
A spotter 2N of Chardon reported 4" new since 7am and 8" storm total so far. The few inches of snow that accumulated on pavement here is actually starting to melt on its own despite half decent snow still falling thanks to the high sun angle most likely.
Seems that the clouds are pretty thin too. I remember Dick Goddard saying that LES clouds were normally pretty thin.
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Earlier this AM in Chesterland, there were almost bare places with grass showing with other places over 6" deep. Wind, of course... My WAG is around 3" as of 8 am. Been snowing pretty hard in Solon. Interesting with the higher sun angle, it looks as if the sun is trying to come out. Again, hard to say how much has fallen because of the wind and probably, a stronger sun evaporating (not melting) some of that snow since the moisture content is low.
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Local QPFs from the 18Z 12KM & the 18Z 4KM NAM look a little better than the 12Z runs.
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10 hours ago, NEOH said:
Thanks for the measurements. Appreciate it. Beers are on me at Panini's. I think we have a few local folks... we should all meet up at some point.
Count me in! Haven't posted this year any. Lots of stuff going on, but meeting up is a great idea!
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We've had around 14"-15" for the event. Yes, it is feast or famine around here. DTA and I live very close... We definitely need a WNW to NW wind for significant snows around here. We are on the SW edge of the snowbelt with a decent elevation of 1,200 ft or so.
Chesterland had around 13-15" since it all started on Monday. Snow depth has settled to around 8". We will be slammed by next week's storm. How do I know? Because I'll be in California all next week.
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Radar looks kind of meh now with popcorn snow showers.
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That band looks pretty intense...Picked up about 5" last night. Have around 6" on the ground. Probably a total of 8" so far with 2 of those inches lost to compression.
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OHWx...seriously, I think you are one of the best posters on this site. I always look forward to what you have to say about upcoming winter events! Many thanks!!
Fall/Winter 2018-19 Complaint/Banter Thread
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Yeah, this past February's 500mb anomalies say otherwise...Nasty -PNA there!