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Two camps on the coming pattern change: Camp 1 - Pattern change to cold and possible snowy after the 16th, many in this camp expect this to last deep into February which would be unusual we usually don't do that very well but it can occasionally happen. Camp 2 - Change to normal/below after the 16th likely lasts 10-14 days then oscillates back to first half of January pattern. This falls in line with the mild winter forecasts that have scored highest to this point. Also Weather World a few days ago did their 5 week outlook which is 2/3rd of the time normal to above, which argues this cold wave will be transient. What does this mean? We better score good snow the last third of January because that may be all she wrote outside of more late season garbage like the last two winters.

Not even one flake, i got a rock Maybe i am wrong on that January always throws a bone thing

^ Things only go wrong 99% of the time, you always have that 1% hiding in the shadows lol

Join the glass half empty crowd, doesn't look good at first glance but we gots some high octane liquor in our glass

Welcome to my last winter lmao

Rain/snow radar says it's snow, wrong still 33F rain

33F and rain lol

For all those that didn't get to experience the horror of the 80's, this was it. You mostly got a dry cold January or good snow in DC lol.

If nothing else this should prove you always get a little snow even in a torch January.

NAM and ECM drying out in SEPA/NJ doesn't look right with the low track.

12z NAM= slightly different

Even the awful record mild January of 2006 gave me 2" snow it better do something

Spotted a cricket the size of a shrimp last night.

Yes it is. There was a time where it rarely had radical shifts at this range like it just did from 0z - 12z

Mid month weenie roast, s'mores for desert

In actuality the first three weeks of December HAD the cold AND chances, just the chances misfired. This last week and where things are going in January is a new regime.

When it comes to winter in this region the hardest thing to do is get a great Dec 15-Jan 15 stretch. I fail to understand why it remains mission impossible, odds would say it happens every several years.

Early snow/big cold and middle eastern blizzards gain credence as bad omens.

Just when you thought winters couldn't get any worse my favorite star Betelgeuse in Orion is dimming

Non-weather related but has any but checked out the fading Betelgeuse in Orion?

Not sure what is worse to have lost December as a winter month or gained November as a useless cold month, or March as the new winter month

There were mosquitoes outside yesterday, really

Good question - Seven Springs. Never been there but for some crazy reason google maps labeled it Stowe some kind of glitch.

Last winter epic patterns lurked 15 days away until March, then it half worked out

47F temps above forecast! Over achieving warmth arrives for xmas lol