Brian D

Snow finally filled in along the shore. Starting to accum now.

Getting robbed. Snow staying just offshore, but is filling in around DLH. Just FL here in TH. Was expecting this possibility. We'll see if it fills in a little more as the day wears on, and I get something to measure tonight.

I'm on the N edge with low expectations. N/NW wind with NE 850mb will keep the Lake hammer just to my S. A little syn of 3" (3-7" forecasted for TH) is all I'm expecting. WSW issued because of blowing with 30-40+ mph winds. Just a little more of a jog N, and I'd be golden. They also have Wind adv & High wind warning along the shore as well.

Guess they will have to look at sat images/radar data to see if there was any convection going on at the time. There can be a fine line between hail or sleet sometimes. The whiteness of the graupel could easily be partially melted snow that refreezes. Most sleet I've seen is mostly clear, tho, so more data would be needed to make that call. It can be an easy mistake this time year.

Looks like a good hit Sun night. Not so sure if it'll be that great my way. Might hit min guidance. S of me will do really well with Lake enhancement/LES, tho. Then another strong shot of bitter air for the week.

Thankfully nothing major with the frz rn yesterday. Just some off n on sprinkles/-rn imby. Some light ice reports of 0.1" or less, with 1-2" of snow across Cook county.

Merry Christmas n a Happy Holiday to all. Light frz rn mixed with some snow forecast for later today with some snow along the border. Untreated surfaces will be slick.

Did my boot camp in 1987 in Ft Sill, OK in the middle of summer. That was nasty! Then another 2 months there for more training in Jan-Feb 1990. Wild wx there with highs in the 80's down to 10's after a blue norther, and 6" of slush snow. And in 1990 spent 2 months (Oct-Nov) over in Albuquerque helping with some testing at Kirkland AFB. Never seen so many tumbleweeds, and absolutely dry wx for weeks. 10% humidity many days. One of the guys had a friend over in Dallas, so we spent Thanksgiving with him, and his family. Was glad to have experienced a different part of our country that is so much different than up N.

Decent call here for the pattern. Nothing to disrupt Christmas travel too much. Some wet wx in the S sub on Wed, and a LP moving in from the W will bring some sloppy wx on Thurs eve in to Friday. Merry Christmas ev1! Hope your holiday's are blessed

Christmas Day eve into Friday may be a wet snow, icy system for N MN - N WI (& UP MI). Looks like I did a decent job with the Holiday forecast in sniffing out the pattern.

Christmas Day may be a LES or lake enhancement with synoptic snows across NE MN. Looks like a possible def zone between HP n LP setting up. A long fetch from the ENE across the Lake usually gives something, especially with a boundary hanging out.

0.4" of snow from the clipper. Now this morning winds are kicking up into the 30's blowing snow around. Temps were in the mid 20's and in just a half hour dropped to mid teens. Cold day on tap.

0.5" IMBY of snow after a rainy day yesterday, and bitter temps this morning under clear, blue skies n fairly calm winds. -sd's near the Lake with -10's/-20's across inland NE MN. I-Fall's dropped 56dF in 26hrs from 34 to -22.

TBH, science is almost always corrupted by money n politics to some degree. Going to have to leave it there.

Rain showers this morning making things nice, and sloppy(and a bit icy on untreated surfaces). High wind watch along the shore later today for potential gusts to 60 mph.

S trend would be nice. LP will track right over me at this point.

Is 6-9" a big snow? The upper end of that is getting there. Maybe we need a woman's perspective on this??

Pretty much lighter snows, and gusty winds for the foreseeable future. Might get lucky with some lake enhancement/LES. Temps will be a rollercoaster ride.

Lansing has records back in the 1860's which had some very cold winters. So I looked at how this year compared. Impressive to be sure. 15.63 1868-12-01 1868-12-15 1 1 1 0 16.93 1867-12-01 1867-12-15 2 2 2 0 17.20 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 3 3 3 0 17.20 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 4 0 17.33 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 4 5 0 17.53 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 6 5 6 0 18.47 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 7 6 7 0 18.70 1904-12-01 1904-12-15 8 7 8 0 19.33 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 9 8 9 0 19.43 1864-12-01 1864-12-15 10 9 10 0 19.77 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 11 10 11 0 19.90 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 12 11 12 0 Here's what MRCC has for Detroit 19.57 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 1 1 1 0 20.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 2 2 2 0 21.30 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 3 0 21.37 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 4 4 4 0 22.07 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 5 5 0 22.10 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 6 6 6 0 22.30 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 7 7 7 0 22.63 1937-12-01 1937-12-15 8 8 8 0 22.90 2005-12-01 2005-12-15 9 9 9 0 22.97 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 10 10 10 0

10th coldest for Madison too. 6.30 1919-12-01 1919-12-15 1 1 1 0 7.77 1972-12-01 1972-12-15 2 2 2 0 9.50 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 3 3 3 0 10.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 4 4 4 0 11.07 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 5 5 5 0 12.80 1898-12-01 1898-12-15 6 6 6 0 13.33 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 7 7 7 0 14.13 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 8 8 8 0 14.63 1942-12-01 1942-12-15 9 9 9 0 14.97 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 10 10 10 0

Ice is generally new/thin which would be typical this time of year. The warmer temps with gusty winds this week will knock it back pretty good as much of the detected ice is lower in concentrations across the Lakes. With such a cold start this year, the potential exists for a higher ice year with larger areas of thicker ice. Something we need to help the natural ecosystem. It actually helps to knock back some invasive species.

First half of the month at DLH is the 10th coldest. 3 days of warmer wx, and sloppy with the strong clipper incoming for Wed-Thurs. -4.40 1919-12-01 1919-12-15 1 1 1 0 -2.33 1972-12-01 1972-12-15 2 2 2 0 -0.27 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 3 3 3 0 1.27 1927-12-01 1927-12-15 4 4 4 0 1.33 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 5 5 5 0 3.67 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 6 6 6 0 4.50 1985-12-01 1985-12-15 7 7 7 0 5.10 2013-12-01 2013-12-15 8 8 8 0 5.30 2000-12-01 2000-12-15 9 9 9 0 6.33 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 10 10 10 0

Whiplash temps. Going to feel very nice tomorrow.

I think you guys would like the UP MI area. Lots of snow, and tends not to see a lot of bitter wx because of the Lake. Some parts get excessive snow, but you can find areas that aren't so bad. Temperate summers, too.

Coldest am yet around N MN. -10's/-20's. Badoura over in the Park Rapids area -28. Windy last night, but they calmed down, and with clear, blue skies allowed some good radiational cooling this morning. Impressive cold snap for mid Dec, but I'm ready for milder temps, and some snow chances.