Gotcha. I'm such a noob it's embarassing. I just like seasons in seasons, and that's why i'm here. Maybe it's people like me who've ruined it. Hmm. Thanks for info everyone, I truly do enjoy it.
So, as always, the GFS and the Euro are on different pages when it comes to the Xmas torch. And, just like always, I'm sure the GFS will cave to the Grinch Euro.