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Lots of Frost 26F.

A sure sign that a warmer air mass is coming in today. But looks pretty and reminds me it is January

6 minutes ago, Rjay said:

If that's not mild Idk what is. 

Yes but again, it’s being driven by overnight lows. As several posters have pointed out. Daytime highs have not been that mild... yet.

This week is a whole different story.

3 hours ago, justinj said:

I remember that, think it was late 90s early 2000s. Nice quick thumps of 2-3” at night

I’m going to say mid 2000s. It was the middle of January. At the end of the week we had 6+ inches on the ground in city

Look, at least it is somewhat cold. 40 day, 25 night.  

We have had a lot worse in terms of January.

It will snow this month. And it looks like a good chunk of it will be coldish (slightly above normal but still feel like January)

I’ll take it

Are we going to have the rare day where we under perform today?

Only 29F at 1130a

2 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

Just 10 short days away.  Meanwhile we are +5 for January.  Torch city so far.

That was obvious from late December onward. People just didnt want to see it

34F when I left at 4 am. 37F when I arrived home at 5pm. 

Says so much and nothing at all.

The snow cover line begins right at 287 where there is elevation: Tarrytown has snow, Nyack does not.

The storm was modeled perfectly. Models continue to be spot on. Disappointment source is from not excepting what the models are showing OR using one-off runs in the 24 hours prior to verify a wishcast.

32F. That sums up my snowfall.

Im driving up to belleayre today and curious as to where the accumulating snow line was. im assuming 10-30 north of 287 depending on elevation

1 hour ago, BxEngine said:

At freezing, everything covered. Not every storm needs to be a blockbuster, maybe we should nix the “nothingburger” stuff. No one is forcing anyone to post here. Carry on...

Just south of 287 in Westchester at 33F

Interesting temperature gradient… It’s raining on the east side of Westchester and snow as you get closer to Hudson.

Today is my bday. In 39 years almost every bday I can remember has had snow on the ground, snow in the air, ice or rain around this date. 

Two of the best ones I remember: sometime around 1986 heavy rain to snow during my bday party. I was likely 4 or 5. Possibly 1996 an ice storm that left the city with a thin crusty cover of snow and ice. 

Snow away!

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Interesting baseball analogy.  The best teams (like the 90s Yankees) use a combo of homeruns and small ball fundamentals.  Because depending on just one simply doesn't work.

 

Actually, sadly, baseball as a whole has moved towards homerun hitters. It is why the game has become so boring. It is all or nothing. Just like our winters haha

1 hour ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

It depends on where you are in the sub forum. Many members on this board N and W will see snow tomorrow. 

I agree. We have a good chunk of people south and east of 287. They will see rain or useless snow.

It is too warm.

We are pushing this mild January leads to snow narrative.

This whole week is 3 to 5° above normal. All you do is eliminate possibilities with that airmass.

You become totally dependent on track, phasing, timing. To bring in a baseball analogy because it feels like spring outside, You are hoping for a homerun because picking up runs through small ball fundamentals isnt going to work

Yesterday was rain, tomorrow will be rain, the next one will be rain unless it is a perfect setup.

That’s a bad position to be in if you like snow.

Moderate sleet at the moment in Hastings on Hudson. Minor accumulations on asphalt...As I’m starting to find out because I’m out running like a nut

Moderate sleet at the moment for as long as that lasts 37F

27 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Where ?

Hastings on Hudson

A very icy 23F to start the new year. Ice and frost on every surface

9 hours ago, Rjay said:

I think NYC finishes January +3 but with multiple snow threats.  Pretty crazy to think about.   

I think you’re spot on

7 minutes ago, Jeff Grann said:

There is a reason NYC averages less than 30" of snow a year. CP has already had 1/3rd of the yearly average in December... The least snowy month of winter. I really don't understand what you Coastal youth bitch about everytime it rains? If you got your way, you would have 7 feet a year. If you want that, you live in the wrong place. In April if you don't have another 15-20" that fell then you can bitch about not getting the snow you deserve. 

You can’t discount the fact that we are running 5+ degrees above normal with no end in sight on top of the stats you posted.

17 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said:

How 

How much did the coast get?? 0

JFK got what 8 inches? To me you can’t say the coast got zero. 

As for upcoming storms, things have to line up perfect to manufacture cold air. A general 5 degrees AN going forward. 

41 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said:

All these storms and a crappy airmass. When we get the cold the storms will disappear.  That's what we do in these parts. We need a good area wide crushing from coast to interior. It's been a couple years now

 

We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets.

6 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I was looking up NYC historical snowfall climatology and I found this ridiculous page lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_New_York_City#:~:text=Snowfall is now a rare,is exposed to the Atlantic.

The city can be prone to extremes. Snowfall is now a rare occurrence in the city, on average occurring on only 12 days per year, and it is infrequently heavy.   I can get behind the "infrequently heavy part" but not the "is now a rare occurrence in the city" part.  That statement may be true 20 years from now but not yet.

I would say to the average person, it is true. Even before the last two seasons, we entered into a very warm paradigm that saw larger storms drop snow and quickly melt.

The February storm 3 years ago comes to mind. It got cold for the storm. The week before and after were ridiculously warm. It was gone before sunset in the city

Someone above mentioned 2015 with rose colored glasses. What a disaster of a winter! Starting with the Nino Dec. The biggest storm ever was gone in one week! Had that storm not occurred, the city had 2 inches of snow for the year.

To the average person looking out their window, reading Wikipedia, Seeing snow on the ground in New York City is increasingly rare.

A recent storm that stuck around for 7 days cures all ills; but that is increasingly rare

29 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

First half of January is over

 

The PV is taking a beaten right now.  Hopefully the 2nd half is better. 

Can we stop doing this? Please.

For the record, you are probably right. But we really cant say this with any certainty.