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Last year was a white xmas for westchester and north

Fair point, but El Niños featuring one or two mega storms usually goes hand and hand with warm weather, especially in December. This has been a cold, dry pattern. It will be interesting to see how the second half of Dec plays out.

No one that does math will laugh. This cold pattern has no snow. 14-22 look warm. That leaves just over a week for something to happen...if the forecasted cold returns. The forecasts telling you about a stormy cold pattern the last week of Dec also said the snowblower would be running this evening. You start running out of days in the month...

Not when snow occurs early in November. There is a historic sharp line in the third week. If major snow falls before that, the winter after has been relatively light on snow. There are a couple of exceptions...and they all involve one big storm. Again, there is no science behind it. Just historical precedent. Someone mentioned a lack of 6 inch plus November and Decembers...it goes beyond that.

1989...early November snow...meh rest of winter. Like every winter that had an early November major snowfall. A couple had 1 big storm...but most were below normal in snowfall. Fighting history this year.

No, that was scary. And El Nino on steroids. If I never see a month like that again, it will be too soon.

Up at hunter today. Around 4 inches on ground with a steady snow all day. Spectacular November conditions. Perhaps the best I ever experienced in NE.

Forecasts aside, the scope of below normal continuing would be unusual for the 2010s, and unusual for a sorta el nino year in December. Also, historically speaking, a 6 inch snowstorm that early in November usually messes up snow chances for the rest of the season. Even if years ended up above normal in that scenario, it is usually associated with one big storm for the bulk of it. Not saying that that can’t happen, but we would be buccing historical trends. In other words, Buckle Up

What are the winds like for the parade? That set up is concerning for gusty NW winds, which could ground balloons for first time since the Cat and the Hat debacle in the 90s

Very bad roads up here. 3 inches already

You say that with such certainty. The LR forecasts havent exactly been spot on over last 30 days

Too early in season. could jinx our whole season if history is any guide.

27 this morning. 32 line down to the northern Bronx. 40 crossing Whitestone Bridge. 37 with frost at JFK. It is amazing how cold FOK gets and how hard it is to get cold in the LGA area.

Haha. I have heard good things about the Ariens as well. A bit less known amongst the masses...But rated very well

First time this season I’m approaching freezing at 9pm. Colder than last night