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All of the mid-range guidance through day 7 has the thermal boundary too far northeast for us to have much of a shot at snow. Out to day 10 isn't much better. I hope it changes. It's a pretty ugly and repetitive looking longwave setup that would seem to favor New England for snow chances. But it doesn't exactly look warm either after Friday and the real cold is not too far off. But it's sure no fun looking at a huge stagnant ridge over the central US.
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Cool to see several reports around or even over an inch of snow from yesterday's snow showers in Morris, Warren, and Sussex counties. That made two days in a row of accumulating snow for the higher elevations. https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=PHI This was pretty well modeled.
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Moderate snowfall 12/14/2025 WWA up for most of the area
eduggs replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
Right now the best shot at moderate snow accumulations based on a model consensus would be I-95 east in CNJ and maybe into Long Island. -
If the GFS is right, some spots might get more snow from tonight's lake effect bands than from the Sat. night event.
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The junction of I-287 and I-80 looks like it got into that band pretty good. I bet it dropped a quick 1/2" plus in that area.
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For the past few days, meso models and even globals advertised a finger-like lake effect snow band getting into NNJ this evening. And it has verified as advertised. Count me as impressed.
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Yet another snowy evening out there. Everything's dusted up pretty good - maybe 1/4". From radar I suspect parts of western or northern Morris county have accumulated 1/2" - 1" this evening. These minor events help soothe the snowstorm deprivation angst.
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I have distant memories of short range models fumbling these types of setups, which enhances the tease. But modeling has improved a lot since the 2000s, and especially the 90s. We don't see big, late shifts very often anymore.
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Moderate snowfall 12/14/2025 WWA up for most of the area
eduggs replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
FWIW, big improvement on the 18z RRFS vs. 12z... now generally in line with NAM and RGEM. -
Yup. But the magnitude of run to run changes is so small at this time range now that it will be really difficult to see big improvements. The range of outcomes has significantly narrowed.
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I think it improved early in the run but then shifted east at the end. The ICON did the same.
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Moderate snowfall 12/14/2025 WWA up for most of the area
eduggs replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
Noticable shift ESE with the PV on the 18z NAM. Looks more suppressive. Bummer... was really hoping to get lucky with this one and keep trending it. Although it shouldn't be surprising that the outlier solutions shift towards model consensus. -
The 12z CMC is the first run I've seen that fully rounds the base in time to spin up the mid/ULL into Nova Scotia. Too late, yes... but closer. The next step would obviously be for it to happen faster and in time to impact EMA instead of Halifax. ... gotta keep pumping heights out ahead of the trof in Ontario/Quebec.
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Regarding trend analysis. You should include hypothesis testing and p-values to assess the statistical significance of the trend. Most random scatterplots will show a non-statistically significant linear trend... so you have to analyze if the trend means anything. By visual inspection, the negative trends are largely due to lower-snow years starting in 2015. It could be argued that this down-cycle explains the trend and will be reversed after the next up-cycle. I do believe warmer winter temperatures are affecting seasonal snowfall. But snow is a tricky parameter to analyze and statistical analysis can be very misleading if not presented faithfully.
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Moderate snowfall 12/14/2025 WWA up for most of the area
eduggs replied to WeatherGeek2025's topic in New York City Metro
GEFS mean keeps ticking a little "wetter." NYC just shy of 0.2 liquid now.
