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Herd immunity only "works" (I put that in quotes because of the price to pay to achieve it) if reinfection can't happen or is very rare. Like I said a while back, we are going to start to get a better answer on the reinfection potential simply by having the NYC schools reopen since so many in that city have already had it.

Will be interesting to see what happens when the real big boys in IN start school, that being IU Bloomington and Purdue WL. Each one has well over 40,000 students. Notre Dame has like 12,000

Saw that Notre Dame is going to 2 weeks of virtual learning. They didn't even make it 10 days from the first day of school, which was Aug 10.

Then throw in the other damage and we could perhaps be talking something like 7-10 billion.

Trying to find a preliminary dollar amount for all of this with not much success, but the idea of a derecho possibly being a several billion dollar disaster is pretty crazy to think about.

It's easy to overestimate winds so I tend to lean conservative on estimates, but I'd say there was at least 90-100 mph stuff in there.

Alright folks, move on.

130 mph is certainly higher end and doesn't come around often. I have heard of cases of 140-150 mph straight line winds in derecho or more localized microburst but even that is a short of cat 5 hurricane.

Here is a good video from Cedar Rapids. The intensity builds throughout. The tree in the foreground gets taken out around the 14 minute mark and the overall landscape gets transformed quite a bit from beginning to end.

How many times will the bolded be identified as a source of spread this semester? SOUTH BEND — When the University of Notre Dame had returning students tested for the coronavirus before allowing them back on campus for the fall semester, just 33 — fewer than half a percent — of the nearly 12,000 tests came back positive. But in the one-week span from Aug. 6 to Friday, the university has reported 29 cases of COVID-19. Of the 348 tests conducted since Aug. 3, more than 8% have been positive. On Friday alone, the university reported 10 new cases. Of the 348 tests, 160 were performed on students and staff members with the football program. Many of the other tests were conducted on students who were either symptomatic or potentially had contact with symptomatic students. The spike in cases, less than two weeks after most students returned, shows the difficulty of controlling the virus while keeping the campus open, despite Notre Dame’s efforts to avoid an outbreak. University spokesman Paul Browne said the increase in cases was a reminder that its coronavirus plan would work only with total cooperation from students. He said many of the COVID-19 cases have been traced to an off-campus party where students did not wear masks or practice social distancing. https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/notre-dame-sees-spike-in-covid-19-cases/article_df400178-de64-11ea-9eec-8f4e8e14e00d.html

Not at all. Obviously you are not going to have zero cases/deaths in a country as large as the United States and we are not an island that can simply be closed off, but there is a lot of room between that and where things currently stand. It's hard to call it good news, but if there is anything, the 7 day average deaths per day have stopped rising. But it is at just over 1000 per day.

Obviously it's crucial to not overload the hospitals, but we shouldn't just accept 1000 deaths per day either. It feels like too many people are becoming accustomed to that. I really think we could've gotten this down to 100 deaths per day or maybe even less. With the current baseline, combined with schools reopening and maybe some seasonal influence exerting itself as we get into colder months, we are likely going to have a hard time driving the numbers down in a big way.

I don't know about that. I can't find good numbers on it but I think the risk of dying from this is pretty significant for people in their 80s or older, regardless of whether they are obese. But for someone in that age group who is also obese, that is a really bad combination.

I think the recommendation is that places with over 5% positivity rate shouldn't have in person school. That would be a significant part of the country and its obviously not being followed everywhere.

Depends on how you define "resurgence." There are places that have gone back up but not to the previous levels.

One time I remember hearing it off in the distance inside the house with the windows shut (no tv or any other background noise). It was in May 2000 just before midnight. It was dead calm and then it hit. The power went out and then I backed away from the window because it was looking a little crazy. Lost a lot of branches and a tree was uprooted down the street.

Thanks for your accounts guys. I have noticed in some of the better straight line wind events/derechos that you can sometimes hear the wind in the distance maybe 30 or 60 seconds before it hits... if you're in a quiet environment of course. Did you guys experience that or not?

Yeah, it is sort of buried in one of the links embedded at the original link, but it mentions that 68% were also receiving methylprednisolone/prednisone. The FDA ended the emergency use authorization for HCQ, so regardless of whether anyone thinks it works or not, it is not going to be widely prescribed in the US for covid anymore.

I really hope we aren't looking at like 400,000 dead by the end of winter, but I fear that is an outcome that is within reach. Let's be optimistic and say we get a good, relatively effective vaccine(s) that come out by the end of the year. Even with the effort to mass produce, it's still going to be prioritized for certain groups/occupations right when it comes out. The dent that it would be able to put in the outbreak will be somewhat limited at first. We really need a better, widely available treatment than what we have now. The monoclonal antibodies (sp?) sounds promising but again, how widely available will that be over the next several months? A little scary to think where we would be right now if we had left everything open all over the country and everyone went about life as usual with NO masks or social distancing. imo we would already have over a half million deaths.

LOT confirmed another tornado in the southern suburbs. 3 tornadoes have now been confirmed in Cook county, which is the first time there have been 3 in a day in Cook co since 6/7/2008.

Do you have a generator so you could at least hook up your fridge or something?

What would you estimate the mask prevalence to be at your store? If it's 80-90% or more, that is pretty good and would have dimishing returns beyond that point. Not like we are talking about a solar eclipse, where there is indeed a big difference between what it's like at 99% and 100%

LOT added 3 more tornadoes so far today. 1 in DeKalb county, 1 in Kane and 1 in Newton.

Has anyone come across any info about the percentage of kids who will be doing all virtual learning? Just trying to get a better sense of how many kids will be attending in person full time or hybrid.