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The 1660 are not all "new." Per the state dashboard, almost 1000 of those are older results that were added in to the cumulative total. Today, 16,215 antigen tests and 975 positive cases from July 28 through August 22 are being added to the cumulative reports. Moving forward, antigen cases and testing from the most recent 24-hour period will be included in the daily reports. Tests and cases from prior to July 28 will be added to the cumulative reports once they are verified.

I know there have been questions with the number of tests being performed as well as the hospital data, but if the trends are indeed real, then I think we could see deaths start coming down. Unfortunately I believe it will be very gradual and may still average like 800 per day in the "trough"... maybe a bit lower if we're lucky. I'm afraid it will be short lived though because it's going to be tough to keep driving the case numbers down with more things opening up (namely schools), growing pandemic fatigue and fall weather.

3 dozen Purdue students suspended for violating guidelines https://fox59.com/news/purdue-suspends-36-students-after-party-violating-covid-19-pledge/ If they continue to enforce this, there may be thousands of suspensions in the next few months.

Per the Notre Dame dashboard, the latest number is 336 confirmed cases out of 2035 tests. I wonder how these college cases are assigned though? Do they automatically count as part of that county's total or is it assigned to the person's home county? I know that people who have been tested while on vacation had it added into the total in their home county, not the vacation county, but obviously with college you are away from home a lot longer.

Parties, missteps and slow testing: How Notre Dame's COVID-19 plan unraveled SOUTH BEND – In May, the president of the University of Notre Dame, the Rev. John Jenkins, insisted that despite a growing number of coronavirus cases locally and across the country, it was “worth the risk” to bring students back to campus for the fall. “We have availed ourselves of the best medical advice and scientific information available and are assiduously planning a reopening that will make the campus community as safe as possible,” Jenkins wrote in an op-ed piece for the New York Times. “We believe the good of educating students and continuing vital research is very much worth the remaining risk.” One week into the fall semester, the plan unraveled. Students partied. Others didn’t follow safety protocols. Cases immediately spiked. And the university wasn’t ready for the outbreak. Some students reported that calls to the university’s COVID hotline went unanswered. Many complained about waiting days to get tested on campus. Others relayed stories about a lack of preparation at quarantine areas the university had set up. Some professors were outraged they weren’t notified that students in their classes had tested positive. More... https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/education/parties-missteps-and-slow-testing-how-notre-dames-covid-19-plan-unraveled/article_30c4f5a6-e26d-11ea-a12a-af1bffb3d946.html

A governor complaining about media coverage or another political party is not appropriate for this thread. Please refrain from mentioning political figures unless it is truly something substantive/newsworthy.

Herd immunity only "works" (I put that in quotes because of the price to pay to achieve it) if reinfection can't happen or is very rare. Like I said a while back, we are going to start to get a better answer on the reinfection potential simply by having the NYC schools reopen since so many in that city have already had it.

Will be interesting to see what happens when the real big boys in IN start school, that being IU Bloomington and Purdue WL. Each one has well over 40,000 students. Notre Dame has like 12,000

Saw that Notre Dame is going to 2 weeks of virtual learning. They didn't even make it 10 days from the first day of school, which was Aug 10.

How many times will the bolded be identified as a source of spread this semester? SOUTH BEND — When the University of Notre Dame had returning students tested for the coronavirus before allowing them back on campus for the fall semester, just 33 — fewer than half a percent — of the nearly 12,000 tests came back positive. But in the one-week span from Aug. 6 to Friday, the university has reported 29 cases of COVID-19. Of the 348 tests conducted since Aug. 3, more than 8% have been positive. On Friday alone, the university reported 10 new cases. Of the 348 tests, 160 were performed on students and staff members with the football program. Many of the other tests were conducted on students who were either symptomatic or potentially had contact with symptomatic students. The spike in cases, less than two weeks after most students returned, shows the difficulty of controlling the virus while keeping the campus open, despite Notre Dame’s efforts to avoid an outbreak. University spokesman Paul Browne said the increase in cases was a reminder that its coronavirus plan would work only with total cooperation from students. He said many of the COVID-19 cases have been traced to an off-campus party where students did not wear masks or practice social distancing. https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/notre-dame-sees-spike-in-covid-19-cases/article_df400178-de64-11ea-9eec-8f4e8e14e00d.html

Not at all. Obviously you are not going to have zero cases/deaths in a country as large as the United States and we are not an island that can simply be closed off, but there is a lot of room between that and where things currently stand. It's hard to call it good news, but if there is anything, the 7 day average deaths per day have stopped rising. But it is at just over 1000 per day.

Obviously it's crucial to not overload the hospitals, but we shouldn't just accept 1000 deaths per day either. It feels like too many people are becoming accustomed to that. I really think we could've gotten this down to 100 deaths per day or maybe even less. With the current baseline, combined with schools reopening and maybe some seasonal influence exerting itself as we get into colder months, we are likely going to have a hard time driving the numbers down in a big way.

I don't know about that. I can't find good numbers on it but I think the risk of dying from this is pretty significant for people in their 80s or older, regardless of whether they are obese. But for someone in that age group who is also obese, that is a really bad combination.

I think the recommendation is that places with over 5% positivity rate shouldn't have in person school. That would be a significant part of the country and its obviously not being followed everywhere.

Depends on how you define "resurgence." There are places that have gone back up but not to the previous levels.

Yeah, it is sort of buried in one of the links embedded at the original link, but it mentions that 68% were also receiving methylprednisolone/prednisone. The FDA ended the emergency use authorization for HCQ, so regardless of whether anyone thinks it works or not, it is not going to be widely prescribed in the US for covid anymore.

I really hope we aren't looking at like 400,000 dead by the end of winter, but I fear that is an outcome that is within reach. Let's be optimistic and say we get a good, relatively effective vaccine(s) that come out by the end of the year. Even with the effort to mass produce, it's still going to be prioritized for certain groups/occupations right when it comes out. The dent that it would be able to put in the outbreak will be somewhat limited at first. We really need a better, widely available treatment than what we have now. The monoclonal antibodies (sp?) sounds promising but again, how widely available will that be over the next several months? A little scary to think where we would be right now if we had left everything open all over the country and everyone went about life as usual with NO masks or social distancing. imo we would already have over a half million deaths.

What would you estimate the mask prevalence to be at your store? If it's 80-90% or more, that is pretty good and would have dimishing returns beyond that point. Not like we are talking about a solar eclipse, where there is indeed a big difference between what it's like at 99% and 100%

Has anyone come across any info about the percentage of kids who will be doing all virtual learning? Just trying to get a better sense of how many kids will be attending in person full time or hybrid.

There are different views about how many tests we should be running per day, but it shouldn't only be in the hundreds of thousands. Particularly with schools beginning to reopen. I hope to see the testing numbers increase. If they don't, we are going to have big problems on a more widespread scale instead of just a few states.

From covidtracking

We were testing 800,000+ per day in this country, but now it has dipped to a bit over 700,000. Clicking through various states, it does appear that a lot of the drop in testing can be attributed to states like Florida, Texas and to some extent Arizona. California had a brief dip in testing about a week ago but it has since increased. Whatever the cause, the numbers are what they are.

North Carolina dog with respiratory distress dies after testing positive for coronavirus https://www.wxii12.com/article/raleigh-north-carolina-dog-dead-positive-coronavirus-test/33575500

My cousin's ex husband had it. His main symptom was extreme fatigue that came on quickly... was bad enough that he was afraid he was going to crash his car. His wife also tested positive but no symptoms.

The weird thing about the longer term symptoms is that it spans across severities of the initial illness. Just because you had mild symptoms initially doesn't mean that you won't have long term symptoms. Have even seen some stories of people who thought they recovered and then the symptoms resurfaced.