That cutter that the models had for the system around Thanksgiving has been sneaky ticking further SE with ea run on the Euro anyways and tries getting the surface low to go underneath Maine, Going to have to keep an eye on it as its a big snowmaker right now for the whites into Central Maine.
When winter gets here, Its going to be a long one in the model world, Can't trust any of them even in the mid to short term, Pretty much have to nowcast.