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1 hour ago, mappy said:

did you not know it was going to rain today? lol

No i did but it was so damn filthy.  Like the wheels from the brake dust turned chrome rims black matte.

12 minutes ago, mattie g said:

Raining pretty hard in Burke. And there are way too many people on the VRE.

Traffic on the beltway was awful.  40 mph was the cruising speed.

And i washed my car yesterday too.  Eff monday.

10 hours ago, nj2va said:

Euro starts coming out at 1a this weekend...another sign winter tracking is near.

29 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Lots of leaves down from the wind yesterday and overnight. Going to be a lot more if we get some gusty showers later.

Good.  Let them come down all at once.  I don't feel like raking multiple times.

Might need the a/c if it over performs today for the high

This was a chocolate heavy Halloween year.  Not a lot of non chocolate candy handed out.  

Went to see DC United clinch a playoff spot and then got home in time for the end of the Skins game.  What a day.

VP2 said 32.0 on the nose before I left for work.  Might slip just under before sunrise.  But growing season is over IMBY

2 hours ago, EastCoast NPZ said:

Trees have deep roots and can overcome dry conditions pretty easily, unless it is a prolonged drought.  Warm and wet conditions mute colors by reducing the production of anthocyanins, which gives the leaves the 'reds'.  These are mostly produced in the fall, and is best produced in periods of warm days and cool nights.  Additionally, the cool nights slow the pace at which sugar sap can flowing from the leaf veins back down into the branches and trunk.  We got nothing but severe warmth at nights during Sep and early Oct.  That disgusting eastern ridge and tropical humidity that plagued us for 6 weeks has probably ruined our foliage season.

 

*ETA:  "ruined" might be harsh.  We have entered into a near-perfect weather pattern, so maybe we throw an end-of-game 'hail Mary' and save the season.  I can notice definite changes the last several days, though I yet to see vibrant colors.  I can't recall a fall I would describe as disappointing in all my years, so maybe we are just delayed and not denied.

Thanks for the info.

But i would be remiss if i didn't add this to my reply

17 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Up near Bahstan (Jesus save me from Sawx fans) for a funeral today. Frost everywhere. Much more fall color than Home, but doesn’t look like peak at all. Pretty late and lousy year for color everywhere it seems.

i thought that wet late summers into fall helped with tree color?  That dry was bad leading to leaf changing?  Guess I know jack squat.

3 minutes ago, mappy said:

doubtful, it barely helps with periods as it is. 

This is what i use for mine.  Its fantastic.  reduces cramping, flow and water retention.  

16 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said:

November has menopause 

Is that something Midol can help with?

36.something will be my low.  Car had a little ice on the windshield.  

I hope November got a flu shot with all the changes from hot to cold.

I am going to pick the analog that best fits winter once winter is over.  Can't lose by doing that.

7 minutes ago, mappy said:

Has anyone told you that you're an old man who yells at clouds?

Traffic cameras show no clouds today so I can't yell.  Very annoying.

1 hour ago, leesburg 04 said:

Uh oh...warm November talk...gulp

it hasn't snowed yet.  Back in the 70s/80s/90s/00s it always snowed in Oct by now.  Who didn't make a snowman with a pumpkin as the head and have it last all month?  Remember all the Halloweens that were almost cancelled due to snow drifts swallowing kids in their He-Man costumes?  I used to pull a tobaggan  to carry all my candy over the snow.

14 hours ago, ravensrule said:

Very sad. Unfortunately many of the best posters have left the board over the years. Sometimes people have to look in the mirror and see why. Randy lets way too much nonsense go and lets his buddies even if they aren’t the right people, control the board. PhillyWx and 33andrain are two examples of this. 

look at this passive aggressive BS.  Randy stuck up for and defended mitch plenty and there was a reason why.  Mitch himself was no saint when it came to posting.  

Go ahead, take shots at me.  Its fine. Taking shots at Randy is crap.  I'll let other posters from other forums compliment how the MA is run when they drop in to read what some of our best posters post.  All i've wanted is good disco in the right threads and when big events happen info is easy to find for anyone and not cluttered with dick joke posts which is all you are known here for.  Let that sink in.

If that means I'm one of Randy's buddies and not the right person to control things then too bad.  You can always leave and join mitch elsewhere.  

Thats all I'll say on this cause you and I will never see eye to eye on anything.  Except the Caps.

1.53" from that.  heavy stuff stayed just to my south.  Very winter like except it would be to the north.

The air outside right now feels fantastic.  OMG the difference

.38” so far. Bring more

1 minute ago, nw baltimore wx said:

I'm waiting for you to get inundated with mermaid photos.

it was intentional. 

1 minute ago, Amped said:

So now we all agree there was no storm at all, these are crisis actors and the whole thing was staged, And even though there was no storm, the storm was created by HAARP. 

And the failing New York Times.

In case anyone was wondering, its still muggy as fuuck outside.  Please have this cold front do to the humid air what the Saints offense did to the Skins defense

Where's all my Cat 2 Micheal rain???  This thing is a total bust.  There is no data showing that we will get any good weather from this storm.  Ariel photos will verify what i'm saying.

53 minutes ago, SENC said:

Have seen Ariel photos of Mexico beach. You completely wrong dude.  You really need to be banned by mods.

I have a scientifically different view(s), Not going along with Groupthink So BAN HIM! Burn Him at the Stake,, SILENCE!  Just throw out "peer reviewed",  Science, since it doesn't agree with your views & feelings.. Sheesh!

 

Probably napping. Gramps gets cranky when he forgets his oatmeal.

Don't agree? well,, insult & deflect... One Who disagrees with your views. Sounds some some , Pantyfa talk IMOP...

The TV was, of course, showing everyone all the "horrible damage."

Except it wasn't.As the TV news anchor was "breathlessly" reporting on how horrid it all was in the background were houses and other buildings standing tall, proud and undamaged -- they had their roofs, walls and windows all up and not one board in evidence on any of the windows either.

Cat 4? My A** . HAD that been a Cat 4 every one of those ordinary stick-built houses would have been LEVELED and for those that were reinforced concrete (e.g. ICF) every single window and roof would have been trashed.

They weren't.

Oh sure, you can find the collapsed garage or half-built building that came down in dramatic fashion. It was half-built and not even half-strong!

Again this was a 'strong" Cat 2  the Data I'm finding support My conclusion..

 

 

Michael has been hyped beyond what it really was. Thankfully, it appears from the real data that the storm was not a Cat 4 hurricane.

This official NOAA Panama City coastal station, https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/images/stations/pcbf1.jpg , https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c7773e46b15321267a4160187c5a46920b83be25bfc9a0799867ea0c4b3ecb12.png , recorded a maximum sustained wind speed of 53.0 knots, which is 61 mph, which isn’t even Cat 1 windspeed. Here are screen captures of the station data during the maximum recorded wind speeds: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e27cb15d7d36907f76c4f3065fd8d21c4f5fc84f6ad81a6c3781db63765284a.png
Note the maximum 53.0 knots (61 mph) at 3:06 pm.

The nearest NOAA buoy to the east of Panama City, APCF1, recorded a maximum sustained wind speed of 54.0 knots (62 mph), which is also not even a Cat 1 hurricane. Here is that station: https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=apcf1
Here is a screen capture of the wind speeds recorded during Michael’s landfall: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/326b1c9af4e01c28f2e9cb993c8047d2c01da8b3b95a4ea26e9e73b39bd05ddd.png
Note the maximum sustained winds of 54.0 knots (62 mph) at 1:06pm.

Here is the closest NOAA station, SGOF1 , to the east of Panama CIty which is out in the Gulf, unaffected by land, https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=sgof1
This wind speed measurement is at 35.1m above surface, which would measure higher windspeeds than the official 10m height.
Here is a screen capture of the max wind speed history of station SGOF1: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33c575eeac8f491f600fa4a3d2525aa130374cc28fdaee20ed7749a5f340ea9e.png
Max sustained wind speed of 61 knots (70mph) between 11an and noon.

Here is the wind speed history at a Panama City Beach weather station: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/490679e6111aad721b1ae3d686ef11958faccaef1a8c13f3703e58a5ed49c6a2.png
Maximum wind speeds of between 70mph and 75mph.

Here is another wind speed history at Panama City Beach: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0c67684db3570bc8b7c68734886635a93e0cbec4071a250fa50668bce83f6a2.png
Maximum wind speed of 76.1mph, barely Cat 1.

This actual data seems to indicate that Michael was hyped beyond what it really was.

So where is the hard wind speed data confirming that Michael made landfall with Cat 4 windspeeds of greater than 130mph to 153mph???
Can anyone link to any hard wind speed data confirming Cat 4 windspeeds? Not just reports, but actual documented DATA?

Oh wait.. NOAA claims 150 mph sustained winds,, but also reports gusts up to 119 mph. Doesn't seem credible. On its face Value

People ( Storm Chasers / Reporters ) where driving around in the streets, some hiding behind building posts, and then came the assine comparison that the “Millibars” (Atmospheric Pressure) had become [ GREATER THAN ] Hurricane Andrew, all this while people are still driving around while others hiding behind buildings/posts, AND… No-Where, at anytime,  Did I hear ANYONE DeclareANY Sustained winds greater than,,, wait for it...  105 mph

Each & everyone of you seem to Forget the Majority of the construction there is 30+ years old.. Mobile Homes & Homes construct back then were & are  built without HURRICANE STRAPS ,,  that were enacted to the building codes after Andrew.. you know those lil metal plates that secure the Roof too the Walls? Yeah those.. The majority of the buildings & homes in reality were NOT up to current building codes ,,,

That said..

I think it's about time for to sack and burn the Sacred Temple of Climate Religion, and gut the staffing of the NHC and NOAA among others, and put true scientists in place--not peer-reviewed, Algore approved pathological liars that we have at present. Guys that prove stuff through science. Without fudging the data. That are OK with being wrong, when they're proven wrong.

A guy can hope, at least.

Meanwhile, I'll get ready for winter. Turns out I don't mind the snow much. It doesn't mess us up anywhere near as bad as even a Cat 2.

I have errands to do.. Ya'll have a God Blessed Day..