Let's Talk Winter!!

[pondo1000]

Can someone help with some intel? What was official snowfall total for Columbus, OH last winter? Thanks!

[Hoosier]

4 hours ago, pondo1000 said:

Can someone help with some intel? What was official snowfall total for Columbus, OH last winter? Thanks!

Looks like 27.4" for the entire season. 

[pondo1000]

On 9/1/2019 at 12:17 AM, Hoosier said:

Looks like 27.4" for the entire season. 

Thanks!

[buckeye]

On 9/2/2019 at 11:04 AM, pondo1000 said:

Thanks!

Damn!   I got all excited when I saw Pondo was back....I was hoping to see a GFS 2160hr app runner being posted.

[Hoosier]

1 hour ago, buckeye said:

Damn!   I got all excited when I saw Pondo was back....I was hoping to see a GFS 2160hr app runner being posted.

Does Bastardi have any thoughts about winter yet?  

[buckeye]

2 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Does Bastardi have any thoughts about winter yet?  

My subscription timeframe is usually early Dec thru early March....so I have no idea yet.  But I'd guess better than average odds he's going with something like a 77-78 analog.  

[buckeye]

For the CMH crowd....  just WOW.   Never in a million years would I have expected to see this.

Mike Davis

 

[roardog]

On 9/3/2019 at 3:58 PM, Hoosier said:

Does Bastardi have any thoughts about winter yet?  

Everyone in this subforum would love the current Weatherbell winter forecast. 

[sjm_888]

8 hours ago, buckeye said:

For the CMH crowd....  just WOW.   Never in a million years would I have expected to see this.

Mike Davis

 

2 weeks ago the chief meteorologist for Fox45/ABC 22 in Dayton, Jamie Simpson, picked up his second DUI and was immediately dismissed.

[WestMichigan]

18 hours ago, buckeye said:

For the CMH crowd....  just WOW.   Never in a million years would I have expected to see this.

Mike Davis

 

When I lived there, he was a decent on air weatherman.  Of course no one could top Ganahl for being a winter weather weenie, but Davis wasn't bad.  Never would have guessed this.

[buckeye]

36 minutes ago, WestMichigan said:

When I lived there, he was a decent on air weatherman.  Of course no one could top Ganahl for being a winter weather weenie, but Davis wasn't bad.  Never would have guessed this.

Even Ganahl had a scandal wrt prescription drug abuse and was arrested....this was back in the mid 90's and at the time it was big news.  He weathered (no pun) that storm though somehow and is still around.      The death of Chris Bradley last year...   CMH meterologists, not a lucky group.

[ovweather]

7 hours ago, buckeye said:

Even Ganahl had a scandal wrt prescription drug abuse and was arrested....this was back in the mid 90's and at the time it was big news.  He weathered (no pun) that storm though somehow and is still around.      The death of Chris Bradley last year...   CMH meterologists, not a lucky group.

Winter weather forecasting in the OV can drive meteorologists into risky, stress relieving behaviors.

[RogueWaves]

On 9/5/2019 at 7:15 PM, roardog said:

Everyone in this subforum would love the current Weatherbell winter forecast. 

Who knows? After getting kicked around with last winter's busted forecast, maybe the wx gods will have pity and let him get one right? 

[Angrysummons]

What killed last year was after the expected slow start and then 3 good weeks, was the persistent RNA/-EPO in February. You just never know eh???

[buckeye]

17 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Who knows? After getting kicked around with last winter's busted forecast, maybe the wx gods will have pity and let him get one right? 

I saw it posted in another forum.  Looks like they have Ohio in the epicenter of greatest snowfall departure from normal, (150%).  lol

Pretty likely we have a typical winter.  1 hyped event that ends up severely disappointing and a heapful of pennies and nickles as we scratch our way to average snowfall.  Safe bet.

[Angrysummons]

Ohio(mainly the western/northwestern portion gets the bulk of the storms since 1864) is really due for a major bomb. The last real one was 1993 on the eastern edge of the state. Before that you had 1978, 1965, 1950, 1918, 1913, 1894, 1864.

[snowlover2]

1 hour ago, Angrysummons said:

Ohio(mainly the western/northwestern portion gets the bulk of the storms since 1864) is really due for a major bomb. The last real one was 1993 on the eastern edge of the state. Before that you had 1978, 1965, 1950, 1918, 1913, 1894, 1864.

Actually 2004 pre Christmas dropped 20"+ across the western half of the state so arguably that was the last real big one.

[RogueWaves]

19 hours ago, Angrysummons said:

Ohio(mainly the western/northwestern portion gets the bulk of the storms since 1864) is really due for a major bomb. The last real one was 1993 on the eastern edge of the state. Before that you had 1978, 1965, 1950, 1918, 1913, 1894, 1864.

 

18 hours ago, snowlover2 said:

Actually 2004 pre Christmas dropped 20"+ across the western half of the state so arguably that was the last real big one.

WxBell's map actually looks quite a bit like the Dec '04 event, and/or winter of 1917-18. I'd give you both credit. Also, iirc, 2-14-07 was pretty big across OH? 

[RogueWaves]

On 9/18/2019 at 9:55 AM, buckeye said:

I saw it posted in another forum.  Looks like they have Ohio in the epicenter of greatest snowfall departure from normal, (150%).  lol

Pretty likely we have a typical winter.  1 hyped event that ends up severely disappointing and a heapful of pennies and nickles as we scratch our way to average snowfall.  Safe bet.

I thought to myself the same. Riskiest call of all = Ohio mega-winter. IF you wanted a recipe for a forecast disaster, that'd be it, lol.

Can Vegas even calculate the odds?? 

[Hoosier]

19 hours ago, Angrysummons said:

Ohio(mainly the western/northwestern portion gets the bulk of the storms since 1864) is really due for a major bomb. The last real one was 1993 on the eastern edge of the state. Before that you had 1978, 1965, 1950, 1918, 1913, 1894, 1864.

I'm familiar with all of those except 1894.  What date was that?

[RogueWaves]

1 minute ago, Hoosier said:

I'm familiar with all of those except 1894.  What date was that?

..and I was wondering the specifics on '65. Was that the Feb storm that bulls-eyed some corn fields in NWOH? 

[snowlover2]

41 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

 

WxBell's map actually looks quite a bit like the Dec '04 event, and/or winter of 1917-18. I'd give you both credit. Also, iirc, 2-14-07 was pretty big across OH? 

Northern parts yes. Also almost forgot March 7,8  2008. Most of the northwestern half of OH were under a blizzard warning receiving 10"+.

[BuffaloWeather]

10 minutes ago, snowlover2 said:

Northern parts yes. Also almost forgot March 7,8  2008. Most of the northwestern half of OH were under a blizzard warning receiving 10"+.

We got 22" from that storm. Places near Erie had over 30"

[RogueWaves]

38 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

We got 22" from that storm. Places near Erie had over 30"

That was the rare Apps running bird right there

[RogueWaves]

50 minutes ago, snowlover2 said:

Northern parts yes. Also almost forgot March 7,8  2008. Most of the northwestern half of OH were under a blizzard warning receiving 10"+.

Per that map, the heaviest cut right thru the middle of the state...a certain rarity

[osubrett2]

1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

We got 22" from that storm. Places near Erie had over 30"

1 hour ago, RogueWaves said:

That was the rare Apps running bird right there

March 2008 is an all-timer for CMH: 20.5". (5" on 3/7 and 15.5" on 3/8)

 

A post of mine regarding this storm from the "Top 5 Winter Storms" thread last winter:

 

On 11/1/2018 at 9:38 PM, osubrett2 said:

 Radar Loop

It was my senior year at OSU, the end of Winter Quarter right before Spring Break. IIRC, models weren’t picking up on the storm until ~4 days out, which feels short-term today. I remember comparing the GFS vs. the NAM ad nauseum. The NAM solutions were typical clown maps and the GFS was it’s usual conservative self. With gulf lows, Central Ohio is always victim to the warm sector, but models never budged, keeping us all frozen/snow. Once my meteorology professors showed optimism, I was all in. 

ILN stayed rather conservative with a 8-12” forecast. They upped it to 12-15” with the blizzard warning the morning of. (The last blizzard warning for Franklin County). Snow started around 10am and by 4-5pm, ~5-6” fell before a few hour break. I regret not staying awak for the overnight show. Woke up Saturday morning to the most snow I’ve ever seen on the ground and in 1 storm; 20.5”. 

 

[Hoosier]

2 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

..and I was wondering the specifics on '65. Was that the Feb storm that bulls-eyed some corn fields in NWOH? 

Your memory is not bad.  It was a bomb out of the Gulf in late February.  Saginaw had about 18", which was one of the high totals in the storm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RogueWaves]

On 9/19/2019 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

Your memory is not bad.  It was a bomb out of the Gulf in late February.  Saginaw had about 18", which was one of the high totals in the storm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A 970's mb SLP in Ohio, and so late in Feb no less. Quite the sight. I was 5 mo old. Don't remember a flake, lol. My folks had a photo dated '65 and It's likely this storm which was a standout in an otherwise lackluster season. I also consider this storm the beginning of the 2 decades (65-85) of atmospheric alignment that brought historic storms and events across the GL's/OHV during my youth. What I wouldn't give to see that alignment re-established. Those were exciting wx times!