DeltaT13

Once we slowly begin to emerge from this lock down people better learn to hold their sneezes and coughs. The slightest hint of sickness will get people chased out restaurants and stores, its going to be a weird paranoid existence for a long time. Not cool.

The average middle schooler probably knows the difference between a virus and bacteria and how an antibiotic works. This from the guy who considers himself a genius and thinks he’s a natural medical doctor. Lol. Imagine proudly supporting him..

Every single summer festival all they way through August has been canceled in Rochester. I can’t imagine it will be long before the state fair finds the same sad fate.

Correct, Bernie would have been nice but the US isnt ready for socialism just yet, a bit ahead of his time so to speak. Joe Biden will have to do but certainly has a better chance of losing than winning at this time. To be honest, I would take any single republican candidate over trump. Literally any other person, anyone, but Trump. This isnt about dems or republican, I just want a coherent normal human with some form of empathy and intelligence.

It always easy to remember that one because its basically the only "lie" in his entire 8 year career. Trump is over 17,000 blatant lies in 3 years, often making more than a dozen an hour. Try to keep up.. Anyway, hows the hoax working out for you? LOLz

Thats a very interesting article. A damn shame it had to be spun into a strange trump dick sucking direction. Trump doesnt know an ion, from an electron, or how iron has any part of human blood chemistry. Someone much smarter probably told him it had hope and now he is somehow getting praise as if he came up with the medicine or idea to use it as a treatment himself. We don't need any medical advice from any president, Whether its Trump or Obama. Leave that shit to the professionals who have spent decades working and studying in a lab. Cool article, shitty spin. Hope we can get this virus figured out soon.

4805 cases. 685 deaths Italy definitely seems to have peaked scroll down for nice graphics https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Looks like they have truly peaked and have begun the slow decline. A long brutal decline at that. What a long lasting nasty bug for those who catch it and develop moderate to severe symptoms. Seems like 3-4 weeks until recovered.

Coworkers wife is in ICU. Expected to be on a ventilator for another week.

I remember stumbling across the stat that Greenland has a population over 50,000 people. Kind of blew my mind. Lots of little harbors and fishing ports/villages.

It's not a misrepresentation, its simply another piece of the puzzle. I can infer accurate trends in either graph. Those graphs distinctly show when transmission rates drop off, typically as a result of stringent social distancing. Link me some useful graphs that show the total available infectable population, I'd be interested to see those too.

I already posted a far more accurate way to track it, and it shows a similar thing. https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?fbclid=IwAR0rJQtPzhVZjylG_TcF51RlEVCs6j8B0y11cT4t75-PjvYWEOjVeItMJuA This is just another visual to show how far outside the norm in terms of absolute numbers that we are right now. (Half the time, twice the numbers, it's not pretty) China likely under reported, but what if they didn't? Will we ever know? We we should just throw them out altogether.

That sure as heck isnt flattening for the US.

This just seems wildly hard to believe. The solution to pollution is dilution. After even a few seconds of air flow, you have to imagine concentrations are dropping dramatically as air moves and mixes. Secondly, there is an infectious dose threshold. Just because a virus can be detected, does not mean it can be contracted. Point in case is that cruise ship where they detected COVID19 17 days after. Sure, it may have been detected (DNA remnants), but could you get sick from it, seems unlikely if not impossible. Anyway, I don't know what magic room that doctor was in but air moves, and as it moves it dilutes. I see little risk to just breathing in normal air if no one else is within 6 feet.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Here is the big question.. How well do we really know the flu numbers? What if the denominator is actually far larger than we realize because similar asymptomatic carriers and mild symptoms. In that scenario, COVID19 is once again 20-30 times more deadly. I really wish we could just get some solid data but its a daunting task.

This a great 7 minute video on exponential growth and a really nice way they have found to graph it that exposes when exponential growth slows and begins to move linearly. I highly recommend giving it a watch. https://digg.com/video/coronavirus-exponential-growth-graph?fbclid=IwAR3EG6jWfBL-RDk-DWTbWBwtp62W37WLz7L9a1S6rBjz-UDseqNXR6nIOuM Using their technique, it would appear Italy is close to slowing this thing down while the US is a rocket ship. https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?fbclid=IwAR3vFckAwNVY8YFm7bFjHLPB-AgEOQDMnz0YpnCeHRE27wWOVftYB_qjxVU

Another story casting serious doubt on China’s numbers. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html

Well it’s better than the nothing I see occurring at all the other stores that are open like wegmans, gas stations, most takeout places, Home Depot, etc etc. Those places are basically functioning exactly as they always did. Anyway, I’m not here to defend game stop. I was just trying to make a positive that they found a way to stay open for the customer and pay their employees. Good grief.

Well im not advocating one way or another just saying that as a brick and mortar they rely on selling from their storefront, and their financials have been pretty weak as of late.

I imagine quite a few people are playing video games while sitting in quarantine. This is game stops big moment to turn an otherwise shitty situation into some profit! Sounds like they at least have something in place to limit exposure.

While I agree that this could have been handled much better initially I think your numbers are pretty extreme. As the death total accelerates additional action will be taken. Better testing is being developed daily, hospitals will gain experience on treating and identifying critical cases, more lockdowns will be put in place, increases in UV and humidity will likely slow transmission etc, etc. We aren’t just going to sit here and watch a million people die Maintaining exponential growth beyond a few orders of magnitude would be exceptionally rare and require us to basically do absolutely nothing. That is obviously not the case here. I agree this will be bad but saying a million people will die is ridiculous. I would be extremely shocked if we even hit 50k deaths. I’m thinking we end up somewhere around 20-30k before herd immunity takes over it and it blends in with other seasonal maladies. Once again, I’m not marginalizing this but I’m also not blowing it out of proportion. The US is on its heels right now but I expect to see social distancing efforts begin to show their worth in the coming weeks. I’ve been sheltering in place since requested in this state. I know I’ll eventually catch it, I just don’t want to catch it during the peak when hospitals are under heavier pressure in case I end up developing severe complications.

For the conspiracy theorists out there... I know it’s a pretty crappy source, haha. Still an interesting read if even parts of it are true. https://metrovoicenews.com/21-million-fewer-cellphone-users-in-china-may-reveal-true-death-toll

Agreed. Only elite hackers using vpn and proxy servers can get stuff out and they are few and far between I would imagine. The US probably has an impressive number of spies on the ground so we’d probably know if there was an apocalypse taking place over there. Seems impossible to have virtually zero local transmission only a month or so after peaking.

I mean they were literally welding people into their homes and forcibly removing sick people by utilizing roving security forces. Couple that with communist style punishment for breaking lockdown rules and they really might have done a better job of containing the spread. That said, I’m certainly skeptical of the numbers myself (they seem too good to be true), but when things were raging over there, there was plenty of video evidence leaking out as proof and i can’t find anything anymore. They either really contained it or they clamped down on the internet and are preventing all info from getting out. Hard to know.

Italy coming in with the highest single day death toll from any country since it all began. Still no clear sign anyone except China has peaked at this point. 919