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  1. That's because going east would put them over Stephens City, VA!!
  2. Updated July NMME holds June forecast in the east except for slightly warmer in NNE and cooler in the SE for December-February. Precip AN in the east again with an increased shield and rate over June forecast. Monthly temp forecast beginning December. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=nmme&region=us&pkg=T2ma_nmme&runtime=2026070800&fh=5
  3. Updated July NMME holds June forecast in the east except for slightly warmer in NNE and cooler in the SE (Congrats Larry!) for December-February. Precip AN in the east again with an increased shield and rate over June forecast. Monthly temp link starting December: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=nmme&region=us&pkg=T2ma_nmme&runtime=2026070800&fh=5
  4. Where'd that come from? Lol Just be happy with the 1-2C+ the Euro is showing for the NE and hope for warmer next time.
  5. Like I said, I agree seasonal models are generally inaccurate. We know this. But using a model prog from 3 years ago as a basis has no relevance especially considering upgrades have been made and without statistical proof that the current version has particular biases in Niños. And since there have been no Niños since 2023, that ain't happening.
  6. From my recollection, you comment on seasonal models as much as everyone else. If you want to say commenting doesn't have anthing to do with belief in them, then ok. But I don't think anyonevon this Board believes seasonal modeling is gospel, especially at 5+ months. You misunderstand the surrogate intent and obviously deflect.
  7. Then why use older temp forecasts to argue for warmer conditions? Be honest. If the Euro came in this month, or does in future months, that the NE will be a torch this winter, I suspect you, or one of your surrogates, will be all over it.
  8. If your point is that seasonal models are generally inaccurate, I agree. But they do offer guidance and leave it up to pros and weenies to put whatever weight they choose. But what we're seeing this year so far is a "rough" consensus similar to this month's Euro. At this point, that consensus is encouraging unless one is hoping for a national/worldwide torch.
  9. And don't forget that the last 2 winters the Euro seasonal was too warm in the NE. And since it is impossible to have statistical data that supports the notion that the current Euro seasonal is inherently biased too cool for Niños in its current upgraded version (and I don't see that being possible since there have been upgrades since the 2023 season), I honestly don't see the relevance of prior year forecasts. All we can take away, imho, is that the Euro seasonal has been inaccurate with its winter temp forecasts in the NE 3 out of the last 3 years, twice being too warm and once being too cool. Edit: And let's not forget this month's forecast looks very similar to other seasonal modeling.
  10. Just a WAG, but I think this week marks the beginning of a transition to legit Niño conditions i.e. wetter and cooler than normal. We'll see.
  11. Just a WAG, but I'd day there's a 5-10% chance the winter (DJF) north of MD/PA border will average BN, but a 50/50 chance 1 month could end up BN with February being the best chance. Fwiw, I think March has a 60-70% chance of BN, though only slightly.
  12. Same here in Hanover and 1.28" at York airport 8-9 miles to my ENE. 6." Saturday night.
  13. Getting crushed in Hanover. Yay...I'll get to mow sooner.
  14. Individual monthly December and January Euro seasonal maps courtesy Weather Will in the MA forum. https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/62735-winter-2026-2027-historic-potential/?do=findComment&comment=8107554
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