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13 hours ago, 495weatherguy said:

I remember April 82-but it started to melt the very next day.  I don’t recall the Jan of 82 storm. I don’t remember anything in 87.  Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.  

I do remember storms in 77/78, around first week of February that were big on LI-Feb 83 and then really nothing remarkable until 95/96.  We were snow deprived.  

I must’ve missed a lot, but the frequency of 8 plus inch storms has increased a lot in the last 20 years.   At least put on LI

I've basically been on the low end of most of the storms in recent years, with Jan 2016 being the exception. The Jan 82 storm was the infamous one that brought down the plane into the Potomac in DC.

5 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

The pattern ahead is a good one for the east coast. Blocking is occurring right now.

Bring it. Bought a new craftsman single stage, which should be lighter and easier to move than my big MTD 2 stage. 

Just now, 495weatherguy said:

And the cold recently may not be severe-I’m just getting older 

I think that makes a difference. It got cold in Oct this year and I got up to go fishing a few times and changed my mind. WHen younger I routinely fished most of the winter, of course there were a lot more fish around back then and it didn't cost a fortune. A lot harder to brave the cold at sea when you will drowning bait most of the day.

Just now, 495weatherguy said:

Well my memory is not perfect—I remember the 70’s as cold, but unremarkably so.  The 80’s were a cakewalk-save for February of 1983.   Storms always missed Long Island-you had to go north and west to see appreciable snow.  

Jan 87 had a big event that crippled parts of NJ, not sure how it played out out your way. And 82 had the Jan storm and the freak April blizzard.Then really nothing special from 88-93. I remember the Newark Star Ledger with a headline in 91, What happened to snowstorms?

5 hours ago, North and West said:

It also melted right away... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hey, they usually do. In the best winters more falls.

5 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

agree-if we remember back to 12/5/03, there was a torch in the week before, we got the -NAO/-AO and cold poured in and 15 inches of snow later....

Biggest storm of the winter, but we had a lot of decent events later on.

6 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

How much snow did you get in that one? I think that one was bigger further south?

8-10 and I believe another storm hit further south right after but left us relatively unscathed.

On 11/16/2018 at 6:20 PM, Toekneeweather said:

That was possibly the worst snowstorm I’ve ever been in traffic wise

The Jan 87 storm took the cake for me....wall of snow, starting around 10 am after everyone was at work and school, then everyone getting out by 1pm and snarling the roads. Visibility was so bad I could not figure out where I was, and just followed the tail lights in front of me. People abandoned their cars on the highways to the extent the state police had them impounded. Since it came during a relatively snowless decade no one knew how to drive in the stuff anymore nor did anyone expect a near blizzard. It was a mess.

Just now, weatherlogix said:

that guy sounded like a long lost poster, Ace

There are some nasty people that come on here at times during storms. I am resolving not to engage them or respond to their insults this year. When things get going I will try to stay to banter and observation forums because I am not well versed in the minutiae and the science and that irritates some folks. But I learn a lot here and enjoy sharing with other insane people who happen to like a good snowstorm. I always look at Anthony, who never gets ruffled when someone throw a barb at him.

Light rain here now.

2 minutes ago, Tpalm5 said:

10” in Cornwall Orange County. Still pouring snow at 2” per hour. Impressive.

Looks like you take the prize, though my BIL in ME is expecting 8, and already has 6 otg from the other day. Well, it's Maine....

1 minute ago, ForestHillWx said:

I would have had plows on trucks for starters. The local towns had some plow trucks; the state highways did not. They were sanding. I know, as I drove passed them.

The best was the tandom salt truck, brokedown and being towed. 

I'm not speculating as to the status of the contracts with the companies responsible for the interstates, but the ball was dropped here. 

The towns in my area at least had early dismissals; could you imagine the outcry if these kids were on buses, as long as we were in cars? As a public employee, do you see the frustration of the tax paying citizenry?

Anyway, I just hope more people weren't hurt and that the towns/counties and state learns from this experience. Enjoy the storm. 

Well, as a public employee, you should understand the frustration we have of dealing with diminishing resources and then being blamed that things aren't done the way people want. Do you know how much grief we get in the school district when we do early dismissal? Or when we don't? I am thankful these folks are out there risking their lives for the taxpayers right now. We did not have an early dismissal from school where I work. It wasn't bad enough and wasn't expected to be. There was no good reason by 11 am to call school early in my area. The fact that we got hammered at around 3-4 pm wasn't forecast by any source I looked at. I understand your frustration, but there is always more to it than people think. Peace. 

2 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

The Oil tycoon is a troll banned poster. Ignore.

Is there an inside joke I'm missing? Who was the oil tycoon?

1 minute ago, RockerfellerSnow said:

Why are you still on here? 

PSV is a respected poster who has been here for years. That was kinda harsh.

14 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

2012 was better for me but this is a close second. 

Winds really starting to gust now. Wouldn't be surprised to see advisory gusts with the rapidly intensifying low. 

How much did you get int hat storm? It was about 3-5 over here; Freehold was the jackpot.

4 minutes ago, Rjay said:

Yeah.  Blame the state officials that we thumped during rush hour.  

This kind of thing was SOP back in the 80's and even the 90's. We had some real disasters in 94 with rare ice storms and such. BUt even today with all the better forecasting techniques we still get blindsided, getting 4 inches when we expect 2 feet and 6-7 when expect 1"

1 minute ago, ForestHillWx said:

I don't mean to derail the thread anymore than I did; but this was mismanaged from the state level on down; they own this. 

As a public employee, I am asking you what you would have done. A call for a minor event at a time of year when it is extremely rare for more populated areas to see significant snow. I am not going to fault the state workers on this one. It's not like they enjoy watching people suffer. And they are out there now trying to make things better. Maybe not succeeding, but trying. Let's cut em a break. 

1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said:

Christie called into 101.5 to complain his commute took 4 hours

Who?

1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said:

Complete disaster for the area, huge fail on part of officials. How did they not prepare for this at all. 

And it's not like we live in Atlanta, we've seen 40"+ snow seasons, this was completely inexcusable. 

We were expecting, at worst, 1-3 inches. Streets were pretreated. Salt trucks were on route one and nine early on. This storm hit with more intensity than expected and at the worst possible time. 

3 minutes ago, nesussxwx said:

Going be interesting to see what he has to say. Everything is a mess.

Well he won't shut down the GWB....

5 minutes ago, ForestHillWx said:

Home in Chester. 90/10 snow/sleet. Temp is steady at 28. 

8" on the ground. Roads are a mess. Took 3 hours to get home which normally takes 35. 

287 south of route 23 is closed. Fatal accident supposedly. I'd like to see what Gov Murphy has to say for himself; or is he out of the state?

Well it isn't like we were expecting over two feet, which one recent governor didn't think was worth staying in town for......in fact, quite a few of us were expecting hardly anything. As a meteorologist on CBS just said, we weren't expecting the early intensity.

31 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

The slightly stronger high, cold wedge and cold dewpoints made the difference, along with the massive front end with dynamic cooling of the column. If it came in patchy and more showery, the column would’ve warmed up much sooner and we would’ve seen much less. 

This storm has delivered more than all but one late March storm last year for me. 

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

well before this increase whatever it ends up being it was already around 12K a year.

Yeah, still less. And i don't live in the wealthy burbs. I'm right across the river from SI.

Just now, LibertyBell said:

approaching 6 inches of snow on the south shore

Note, my comment above was regarding you PA taxes; your NY taxes may be higher than mine

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Got a nice little "gift" in the mail saying the property taxes are going up

Whatever you are paying there, it is less than what we're paying here, believe me.