Bubbler86

It would be anomalous but not dangerous in most cases except to our psyche. Would be lots of kicking of footballs going on.

Interesting, I did not know the specifics. But that is one possible way to limit it vs. trying to say hitting 70 five days in a row in Feb is a heat wave. I believe the whole premise of the phrase use is to warn people in specific situations about danger. People who work outside, sports players, people (especially very young and elderly) in non air conditioned locales. So, agree that hitting 70 five days in a row in January is not a heat wave. Maybe you can also say 90 is the min but it also has to be 7 AN so 90 in August does not work.

Hopefully you will pass this all on to MU for future consideration? :-)

I thought of that so was thinking maybe it has to be a day that the NWS records Cooling Degree days. MDT got to 79 in Feb '18 but apparently has a limit on when they record CDD as it still says 0.

That is one of the main points of the discussion: 1) Adjust from 90 to a set amount above normal (7 degrees? 5 Degrees?) -OR- 2) Adjust from actual temp to heat indices but still use the normal as the baseline. So heat index of +7 AN for 5 or more days. It got to 89 here yesterday but the DP's were in the low 60's so in the shade it was just a slightly warm day.

MU 2022 end of May and June first Heat Wave

I think they should be considered heat waves since they are 5 or more but if they were all upper 90's and 100's it is a lot more noteworthy than low 90's. I did not check the records just again pointing out the problem is using the set number.

And a 5 day streak of plus 90 in August is not exactly something that USATODAY covers front page.

Are you asking all of us or just the warminista's?

Plus the heat index has to be figured in. 90/60 is a cake walk compared to 87/80.

It'strainingtime...training met's what a real heatwave is? Are you going to call MU and tell him that the heatwave has not verified per Amwx?

This is definitely a deja vu of last years discussion for the reasons you mentioned. If 90 is the threshold then we have Heat Waves galore. I think it has to be more than 3 days and based on a certain amount over average, not a set temp.

And think of the snow...asking Cashtown if he has caught up to you yet. And the gas savings in mowing (even when all the grass dies).

Folks that prefer more snow and maybe a less hot regime have even more reason to look into Adams and Franklin county now. Cashtown and I have struggled to get to 90 during the last 3 days. I have not made it yet and he just made 90 yesterday. FWIW, I am still of the opinion that a heat wave needs to be more than 3 days since that is the WMO definition so we even have less heatwaves here when it does get hot :-). Last year this group used the 5 day definition.

84 and variably cloudy for nooners here.

I wonder when the US will take up using thermometers that registers in F? I just came from the gas station and they wanted $18 a litre! The gas price is out of control.

How about the "fact" that the reported temps can primarily only raise in odd increments within the 70's and even in the 80's? Talk about a peril...lol.

How hot are Intercourse and Bird-in-Hand going to get?

If you see any authentic/vintage signs, snap them up for me :-)

Lots of open windows coming up.

The models that have been predicting you do NOT hit 90 the last two days are fairly gung ho on you getting close to over the hump. We have not hit 90 yet (this week) over here. I played tennis yesterday afternoon and it was certainly hot regardless of humidity. Some model suites have numerous showers over the LSV this afternoon so that is once issue that may cause problems for a reach of 90.

Good retort! The other thing to remember about this heat wave is that it is not going to meet the definition of how some met's measure it. The World Met Org requires it to be 5 consecutive days and even in the US, where some met's say 3 days is sufficient, it requires high humidity in the North East and I am not sure that has been met either. ----- The World Meteorological Organization, defines a heat wave as five or more consecutive days of prolonged heat in which the daily maximum temperature is higher than the average maximum temperature by 5 °C (9 °F) or more.[6] However, some nations have come up In the United States, definitions also vary by region; however, a heat wave is usually defined as a period of at least two or more days of excessively hot weather.[9] In the Northeast, a heat wave is typically defined as three consecutive days where the temperature reaches or exceeds 90 °F (32.2 °C), but not always as this ties in with humidity levels to determine a heat index threshold.[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_wave

The GFS has mostly early fall temps into Mid June....if that will do.

Just a trace of rain here. The heavier cells moved just to the south of us. Down to 85.