uncle W

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

What about the April 1910 (?) event that gave NYC 10 inches and 19 inches in Philly, was that a blizzard? And was the March 1958 event the one that dropped 29 inches at Babylon?

 

 

IPS-53205E93-4D5E-48DF-B120-6113C151B4AE.pdf (noaa.gov)

7 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

was that the biggest snowstorm we've ever had post March 15?  Wasnt there one like that in 1958 too?

 

1958 was a big wet snow event...the first storm was on 3/14/58...4" of wet snow...the 20th-21st was 12" of wet snow...1956 was 10 degrees colder...only April 1982 surpasses it as the latest blizzard on record...

the storm on March 18-19th, 1956 was a 12-20" blizzard across the area...40mph winds caused large drifts...the period March 12th, to March 24th had four snowfalls adding up to 26" at Newark...April 8th had another 3.4"...

3/12-13/56.....1.4" over night...

3/16-17/56.....5.7" heavy snow/sleet/rain and back to snow...

3/18-19/56...18.2" all out blizzard...

3/24/56..........0.7" cold front passage...

4/8/56............3.4" rain changes to wet snow...

59 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Sometimes we can have both.

 

 

The snow won out in 1982…canceled 3 games…

another coating in the year of the coating...

the last freeze day close to Newark NJ is around May 10th...after that you can get frost until the end of May...

Newark mins...

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Can this happen in the summer too, Chris?

 

1967 was up and down until the Summer...After an April Fools warm spell it got cold until June...NYC very rarely gets below 60 in July or August like it did in the past...in the Summer I can see highs range from 100 on a clear day to a cloudy 70 a few days later...minimums would be near 80 to near 60...

1 hour ago, rclab said:

 

Good morning Liberty, Unc. A good point has been made. It may be wise to explore the need in certain areas for a transition via the hybrid. The grid must be able to support the demand. With an all electric future we should be cautious/thorough as to the results/consequences of jumping without seeing clearly our landing spot. I also believe for work related commutes in dense megalopolis areas thought should be given to continued development of one or two person vehicles. Transformation periods can be fascinating, rather than contentious. Be well all, I just remembered to change my clocks. As always …

you're old enough to remember electric busses...maybe have electric only streets with overhanging wires like trollies had and the cars would have a long poll to the wires...something like bumper cars in a kids park...

39 minutes ago, LoboLeader1 said:

Currently 22 here this AM, with the wind chill feels like 8.  Reached 43 yesterday morning, before FROPA came in and temps dropped steadly there after.  Highest wind gust recorded here yesterday was 51mph. 

they should change clocks on Friday night so you have two days to recover...

5 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/russia-economic-sanctions-wheat-oil/627004/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

1) The Green-Energy Revolution Goes Into Warp Speed Tech revolutions in the 21st century tend to be very fast. It took about a decade for the share of Americans with a smartphone to go from zero to 80 percent. But energy revolutions are lazier affairs, and the green-energy transition in particular has been torpid in the U.S. and Europe, which is perhaps surprising given the declining price of solar energy. The West has simply refused to build green-energy projects fast enough to decarbonize the grid.

Russia’s war could accelerate the green revolution in two big ways. First, it will increase political pressure on the U.S. and European governments to reduce reliance on Russian oil and gas. (The U.S. has already said it will stop importing Russian energy, and Europe is considering a similar ban.) In the short term, countries will lean harder on spare oil and gas sources to keep prices down. But over time, the boycott of Russian energy could raise the price of thermal energy enough that it compels countries to deploy significantly more wind and solar projects. For years, anti-growth fears, antinuclear sentiment, and vague NIMBYism have stood in the way of green-energy construction. The urgency of an external threat could melt away some of those anxieties. “We can not talk about renewables revolution if getting a permit to build a wind park takes seven years,” said Kadri Simson, the European commissioner for energy. “It is time to treat these projects as being in the overriding public interest, because they are.”

Second, rising energy prices will change consumer preferences, nudging more consumers away from gas-powered cars. Today less than 5 percent of the U.S. car market is fully electric. But the industry is pushing electric vehicles hard; nearly every automotive ad in the Super Bowl was for an EV. This marketing shift could combine with a painful spike in gas prices in a way that gets more Americans to buy EVs, which will encourage more automotive companies to invest in EV production, which could bring down the cost of EVs, which will increase demand. This possible shift from energy pain to energy progress has a historical precedent. In 1973, OPEC cut off the U.S. and other countries from access to its oil, raising gas prices. Although most Americans associate that period with economic stagnation, the crisis also led American car manufacturers to become more energy efficient. Actual fuel economy as measured in miles per gallon took off in 1973. Fifty years later, we could see the same dynamic play out: the shock of energy pain leading to decades of progress.

green energy means more money for the politicians...if you want everyone to have electric cars you better have the infrastructure to make electricity and a power grid that can take all the recharging...we are lucky to get through a summer without power failures...hybrid cars are the way to go now...I don't see all electric in the near future...

went from 44 and rain to 37 and mixed snow and rain in less than an hour...

I'm not ruling out an April slush event and cold spell before it gets very warm later in the month...

if the arctic oscillation goes negative at the end of the month Spring could start out interesting...80 one day...snow the next...

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

when I dont remember any snows on that day lol.  I remember snow in the first 10 days of April way more than that

 

1996…1984…1974…1970…

On 3/9/2022 at 7:23 AM, Allsnow said:

Yeah looks warm next week but I can see a crappy end to March/start April with blocking forming 

I think March 29th is the day...it has snowed on that day many more times than the days before and after...

29 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

It’s no mystery what’s going on here and it has been all season.
 

The NWS has dropped the ball again, as they have so many times in years past, regarding snowfall measurements at Central Park. Look at every event this season and the Park has under measured, or not measured at all, every event. When they had the Conservancy measure the last several years it was better although not perfect. I’m not sure what they’re doing this year but it’s time to start applying pressure again. It’s ridiculous that the largest city in the country can’t measure snowfall with any consistency. 

I don’t even want to get started on all of the historic storms they have under measured through the decades. 

you can go back to January 2000 when they didn't measure after midnight making a 6" storm a 5.5" storm...Central Park averaged 29.9" of snowfall since 1990...it probably would be over 30" if the little ones were measured right...

mostly rain all day...

7 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

why wasnt that snow?  looks like an offshore system

0.05” of precipitation will do that…heavy snow never made it up here.

Coney Island got 1.5" that day...flooding everywhere along the coast...

75

this guy knows more about cars than anyone...I watch his videos every day...

5 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

PNA rules over everything 

we have seen big storms with a neg pna and neg ao/nao...Feb 69 and Dec 2010 come to mind...nice to have the pna/nao/ao all in favorable like Jan 1996 but its not always that good...

47 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Then of course the question becomes why have we had a persistent lack of blocking this winter-- what caused the +AO/+NAO to be so persistent this year?

the AO/NAO was so positive after mid December it's a miracle NYC got 17-20" and an 8-10" storm this year...

1 hour ago, CIK62 said:

JB says that March 12-13, 1993 is a good analog for upcoming period.

That was a Triple Phase starting in the GOM.       Models of the day could not get the deep southeast tip of the cold and snow----but did get the overall idea right 120hrs. in advance.       I do not see even a double phase?

I remember leaving work that Friday and going to the supermarket immediately.       NYC had about 12" but got into the dry slot.        Other spots north and west were 20"-40".      Pressures were near a record and 60-70mph gusts were common.    The Deep South had 3"-10"-----a decades worth for them.

Here is the GFSens.  for the upcoming period snow wise:        The mean has been rising from run to run while the Control has been everywhere.

   

was March 1888 unavailable?...

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Yesss I wonder if that would be anything like Feb 1921 but all snow that would be AMAZING.

Look up Feb 1921....there was 4.5" of total precip over 3 days, 18" of it was snow, the rest was a mix.

 

you're thinking Feb 1920...but there was a storm in Feb 1921 that rivals the big ones...heavy wet snow and sleet accumulated 12"...very low 5 to 1 ratio storm...