LithiaWx

I have SOC on ignore since his posts lately have become unbearable to read. I encourage others to do the same.

Some of his replies seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing. When you seem to need get the last word every single time it begins to become aggravating. Also it seems to discourage posting from some posters who if they stopped posting would be a major loss for the forum. Skier and dons are two of the best posters we have (IMO) and I noticed a lot of what seemed to be nitpicking replies to nearly every single post by them. Agreeing to disagree sometimes is the better path than beating someone over the head with your opinion until they just quit posting.

Doesn't look like it got higher than low 50s. Obviously still a huge melt from mid June to late July, though.

What a turnaround for Greenland from June/July. Huge dropoff in melt. How does this August compare to previous years?

Yes, a huge turnaround. We went from way above average melt to average/ very slightly below average melt. His call of 55 - 65% looked pretty good to me based on melt percentage, it's not like he busted. I'm not sure what the point of your posts were.

The story of 2015 Greenland melt will be the highly anomolous melt in June/July. It won't be the near average melt that followed.

Your statement still doesn't hold true if you use the other thread. You have 29% of the respondents say the ice will never melt out and another 6% say after 2100....so if you include those insane responses as not in the scientific consensus, that is legit.

But you said over half. That's incorrect. The scientific consensus on an ice free arctic is very broad. Basically anything from 2020 to late 21st century.

It's a substantial number of posters, that was my point. If it's not half then close to a third would be the proper term. You're going to semantics with this post. My point was its not a couple of posters, the amount posters who disagree with the scientific consensus is way more than it should be for a board that discusses science.

What is the scientific consensus for beating 2012?

You haven't shown any data. Show us that the scientific consensus in the literature for beating 2012 is before 2020.

And yes, if I believe your posts are not in good faith, I have no problem deleting them. Your posts have become increasingly antagonistic and have very little substance. Up your game and you have no worries.

My post was supposed to be in the thread about an ice free arctic. You deleted it so many times when I reposted it for a third time it ended up here. How screwed up is that?

This post doesn't add a thing to this thread...that's why it was getting deleted. What specifically in this thread "speaks volumes"?

 

Up your game or pack it up and keep your garbage out of here.

When half of the votes completely disregard the consensus of the scientific community I'd say that speaks volumes. Lots of deniers around. How about you stop deleting posts that you don't like and stick to deleting posts that break the TOS.

There is no reason for this post to continually be deleted. Hopefully this third attempt won't be censored.

Two years later and this thread still speaks volumes. The amount of climate change deniers who frequent this board is awful. The fact this is a science board is even scarier. You have a large segment of this board and the population living in total denial

If this were a poll for above 14 I'd vote not in our lifetimes and be around 95% confident. I put the odds around 20% that it happens but like others said it will have to be in the next few years.

I'm not convinced frontranger is tacoman. More like tacoman's whiney little brother.

I went with 17/18. If it happens in 16 I won't be shocked. If it takes until after 2020 I would be surprised.

The western GIS looks ugly.

Potatoes. Beans. Tomatoes. Squash. Cucumbers. Peppers. All organic.

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Nice work man,

I've had success here as well just last week my tomatoes finally turned red and I got to pick some!

Great pics guys!! I've been harvesting hot peppers for a few weeks now. My bell peppers are about ready to get picked. Tomatoes are all green but I anticipate more than I know what to do with in about a week or two. I plan on harvesting my first zucchini thhis weekend as well. I've had to water by hand nearly every play though, all in all I've found this to be a very rewarding and relaxing hobby. I get home from work and tend to my garden, it's "dirt therapy"

And caging ~ can anyone give me tips on when or when not to use them?  Currently I have them on my two tomato plants and my two oldest & largest pepper plants.

Looks good Marietta!  My only concern would be the tomato plants getting root bound in those pots.  Even if they do you should still have yield, but the plants might be constrained.  The peppers and other things should do awesome.  Put a little fertilizer on them from time to time and keep them mulched with wheat straw or wood chips if you can.

 

I came across some large plastic containers that previously had tree saplings in them, a friend was going to throw them away.  I snatched them up and planted sun sugar cherry tomatoes and basil in them.  The buckets are about 2 feet wide and 2.5 feet deep I'm guessing.  These plants are growing like crazy and are as big as ones planted in the ground at the same time, at least so far.  I'd suggest being on the look out for these as you might even be able to find them for free at somewhere like Lowes.  Large pots are expensive so tree buckets are a nice free alternative if you are doing a container garden.

 

Thanks man, I appreciate the tips.  Luckily I had read about the extensive root structures of tomato plants and placed them in the largest containers.  I did plant the two tomato plants in different sized containers and am finding that the one in the bigger pot is becoming a larger plant.  You are correct as well the large containers are expensive, I'm going to try and look out for what you mentioned so next season I can give my plants even more room to grow as I do think I will run into an issue with constraint in at least one of the pots.

Here is my update guys :

 

The weather has gotten wet over the last few days and my plants are loving the natural rain!

 

I now have 2 tomato plants (big boy), 1 cowhorn hot pepper, 1 green bell, 1 mexibell, 1 big bertha bell, 1 Zucchini, Lavender & chocolate mint.

 

If anyone has some suggestions for my setup please let me know!  All tips would be appreciated.  I have since changed my method and am only growing one plant per pot.  When I began I paired a few of them and it became apparent I needed to pick a winner and cut the weakest plants at the base.  The other plants responded nicely to this change and began producing much more fruit buds.

Yes, it greened up to 3500 feet last week. I put in a more modest 25 tomato plants. I have around a dozen pepper plants. 8 rows of corn around 40 feet long each. 4 rows of cabbage. 3 rows of potatoes. A row of sweet potatoes. 15 cucumber hills. 8 watermelon hills. 5 zucchini hills. 10 cantaloupe hills. 5 big max pumpkin hills. 4 rows of sweet onions. 2 rows of peas that are already knee high and in full bloom. 3 rows of green beans. I'll plant 2 more rows of corn at least in a few weeks and more beans too.

Impressive, very nice sir!

Nice work carvers and stove....  My next property will include a medium sized area for gardening... 

Here is a look at my garden. Two tomato plants, three bell pepper varieties and one pot with hot peppers on it. This is my first year at container gardening and I'm already learning from mistakes.

It's common sense guys, come on.

TN Valley sub-forum picnic sounds like a great idea!

Your flowers and peppers look great, nice work!

I expect to see lots of pics John!

Thank you sir. My first attempt, I want to learn

My flower garden!!  Survived the 26 degree hard freeze last weekend due to me covering and watering.

 

The Tulips are beyond words beautiful

 

My Container garden out back

 

Red Bell, Green Bell and Cowhorn hot peppers - they are starting to show little fruit buds already!!

 

I hope I did the pairing correctly.....

Oh on another note. My local lowes and home depot got hit HARD last night from the freeze. 80% of their veggies and herbs got wiped out from the freeze. It was a slaughter.

I bought a few new flowers to add to the garden out front. One to replace my burned plant, he definitely bit the dust in the freeze last night. Also purchased two new veggies this time I went with green bell peppers. I'll post some pictures of the progress of my plants once the green bells get used to their new spot. Bonnie's best with their pots that you plant sure do seem to limit the transplant shock. Whoever has a patent on those made some serious bank.

Hit 26 last night. All of the plants appear ok except for one of my snap dragons on the end got nipped pretty good... May have lost that guy but the rest appear to have survived with little to no damage.

Thank you to all who helped me come up with ideas in how to possibly save them