psuhoffman

27 heavy snow

I had to go to York PA today and it was amazing how much warmer it was and less snow they have then here. Crazy difference even north of here once you get off Parrs Ridge. It was 28 here and 34 in York. It was noticeable as soon as I got out of the higher elevation area along the border. What it looks like here York PA Took the kids sledding today also. You can see my house on top the ridge in the background. My street was finally clear enough for me to take my normal evening walk...

I honestly don’t know. There is speculation the SSTs in the Indian Ocean are partially to blame also.

He isn’t wrong that the pac pattern has been the same for 5 years now. And yea it’s very likely to continue. But the last 4 years the March pattern was very different each year depending on other factors.

I’m the same way but I’ve come to realize many get frustrated and move on by March if it’s not been a good winter. It’s kind of ironic because you would think if we had a lot of snow people would be more tired and done with it but it seems in bad years when it’s been mostly a fail that we get a lot of “I wish this just just end” sentiment.

You’re right, especially for our area, but I think for many around DC who have suffered fail after fail all winter it’s more about they are ready for it to be over.

I didn’t claim to be any better

I agree this is likely a forum divider (again) but it wouldn’t shock me if some decent snow sneaks in closer to Baltimore then normal given the low track. There are some pretty rare ancillary circumstances. I’ve never seen a snowfall gradient like this year across our area before. I was looking at a snowfall % of normal map yesterday and across our area goes from much below normal right through the urban core to solidly above normal in the Catoctin area and along the PA line.

I can relate. Even up here despite the fact I’ve done great objectively it feels somewhat hollow because all the events underperformed to a degree. Had the 3 “big” storms this year looked like a 3-6” storm from 72 hours out and ended up 10/12/8” I’d probably feel a LOT different then the fact they looked like 20/20/12” storms from 72 hours and all trended down. I know that makes no logical sense but I feel more excited when I get a 6” snow that was only supposed to be 1-3” then a 10” snow that was supposed to be 15-20”. Don’t get me wrong I would grade this winter a solid B+ even now but had one of the big storms been a flush hit instead of a bit of a letdown it would be a A with the exact same results. I also think my perception is affected by results in the DC area since I spend so much time focused on forecasting for a s getting that area snow!

There are plenty they just tend not to brag about the median income of their county!

Y’all gots to git r on up here! Ain’t gots to worry bout nuttin. Don’t git more cultured den chasin da goat dat done get lose from dat dere neighbors farm gain!

@CAPE there is a wave developing on the front as it passes us and there is a lot of very dry air in front of it that will cool as it saturates. I agree it’s a long shot 95 SE but the only reason it’s not a straight up line of rain showers is it’s not a typical simple cold front passage.

I do fly when I have too, and increasingly as I get older and time is no longer a luxury I have...I am flying more and more. But I have driven from this general area to Colorado 3 times, Utah twice, Wyoming, Revelstoke BC, and Texas because I prefer road trips.

I have no fear of flying. I do, however, have a fear of being at 30,000 feet and suddenly NOT flying!

NEVER surrender! I do wish the snow came earlier though...this is the sad part of the winter where warm ups are inevitable and I have to fight for every day of my precious snowcover and it's like trying to hold back the tide. But my snowcover has so much water/ice content right now...if I can add a few inches Monday and freeze it up...might even be able to withstand a couple days in the upper 40s (which is what I would be based on that there) without losing it completely.

Yea my pack here is an impenetrable fortress right now. It’s got about 3” of solid concrete on the bottom and 2” on the top with like 5” of powder in the middle. If I can tack on a few inches of wet snow Monday and have it freeze up solid Monday night might even get my glacier through the warm days next week to whatever happens in that multiple wave period next weekend and beyond and make a run at a month+ of snowcover.

Toss. I need 4.5!

SW flow events kill you with the 4500’ peaks to your SW. Same thing would happen when I was at PSU.

I am THERE! You may have just picked my next trip!

They open again!!!??? I’ve always wanted too! And I love smaller resorts sometimes. A basin is one of my favorites in Colorado.

What’s really crazy is I usually do much better then places north of me once you get out of the ridge area but it’s not as crazy a difference as to the south.

Hell yea if it wasn’t so freaking middle of no where that would be on my short list of places to live. Love sugarloaf also. Favorite east coast ski resort.

Sorry man. You ok? I’ve had to cut out my daily walks the last couple days. Too much ice.

It really does. Not just in summer. I know the area you’re talking about. And compared to DC or Baltimore they are cooler in summer and more snow in winter...but I’m not kidding when I say the difference from there to here is almost as great a jump. I lived on a ridge at 860 feet just south of Westminster for 2 years before moving up here and the difference is astounding. I drive around the county a lot and the snowcover difference in winter and the temp in summer over just a few miles is crazy. this area is a micro climate within the greater Parrs ridge climate. Even the valleys between those 3 ridges do better. They are generally high valleys though with a floor around 850 and the ridges run 1000-1100 feet. But man if you get on the northwest facing slope of those 3 ridges it really does feel like you just entered a new climate zone. The NW wind is crazy with total exposure. It’s too much sometimes in storms. It’s very common for me to have 6”+ of snowcover and Westminster has none or for me to be 5 degrees cooler then even Westminster. I probably wouldn’t believe it if I wasn’t living it.