BuffaloWeather

I don't understand how you believe in opening up and not in herd immunity. They go hand in hand. If you open up this summer, herd immunity is the end of this. People will "social distance" to a degree. But if restaurants and gyms open up, it's a free for all again. Just like we had in Feb/March in the US. That explains the uptick in deaths that are showing up in a few articles. IE: https://www.businessinsider.com/air-conditioning-spread-coronavirus-restaurant-can-service-industry-open-again-2020-4

So we agree then. We have to open up soon.

What do you presume we do for the next year while we wait for a vaccine that may not even work?

Where are you getting these numbers from? The modeled deaths have been WAYY off from the projections. How many people would have died despite Covid 19? I doubt its anywhere close to those numbers. As evidenced before the entire country was walking around with it unchecked for 6-8 weeks.

facts are facts.

Maybe there is hope for a vaccine after all? Stock market making huge gains. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/business/gilead-coronavirus-stock-market/index.html

As I stated previously, a bad flu season kills up to 640,000 people annually. This virus will likely kill a little bit more than that oh a yearly basis.

Wrong. A vaccine to prevent the common cold has been difficult to make, primarily because there are more than 200 different varieties of viruses that can cause colds.

Coronavirus death rate is not that high, and I did not compare it to the common cold in how bad this is. Obviously this is far worse than the common cold. I compared it in a way to say that the "coronavirus" is constantly mutating. So we are in an endless battle with it. The common cold has never been able to have a vaccine for it, and thus as a result it's highly unlikely we get a successful one for Covid-19. So herd immunity will likely be the only solution.

So the antibody tests do not work, the virus has mutated into 30 different strains, so a vaccine won't work. Coronavirus has been around forever, Covid-19 is just a mutated version of the common cold. Herd immunity might be the only solution. We cannot lock down the country forever.

Yes, that's what the title says. 80% of the deaths are from people over 70 years old that may have died anyways (impossible to track this). Factor in around 15%+ from pre existing conditions and you have a very small factor of the population that is impacted by this virus in any serious way.

Data that shows the virus was here far before any lockdown and death numbers are already likely in the 6 digits in the USA. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/04/27/covid-19-death-toll-undercounted/?arc404=true

Going to have to sacrifice people in order to get this summers economy going. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

And biologically speaking a VERY short period of time when the sample size is in the billions.

Yep. The author's claim is contradicted by his own numbers: "According to the National Center for Health Statistics, life expectancy for men in 1907 was 45.6 years; by 1957 it rose to 66.4; in 2007 it reached 75.5. Unlike the most recent increase in life expectancy... the increase in life expectancy between 1907 and 2007 was largely due to a decreasing infant mortality rate."* But with life expectancy at birth of 46 years and infant mortality of 10%, the life expectancy excluding infant mortality is still at most 51 years. So in fact we gained about 5 years of life expectancy from decreased infant mortality and 25 years from other factors.

Wrong http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/age-specific-mortality-lifespan-bad-science-2009.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR346Gl79T1h8GmqBN6WHiBUGzP9C2h6NBVRTiq84_4stv2XBTXiox-HWh8

Around and around we go https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257519/China-shuts-gyms-swimming-pools-country-battles-second-wave-coronavirus.html

As someone who hates the cold outside of Mid Nov-Mid March, an easy pass from me. Don't understand how anyone can enjoy the cold this time of the year.

This is the type of pattern that gives you a snowstorm in May. In winter this would be -10s

We just had 4 months of a west coast trough and east coast ridge. Now we are going to see 4 months of the opposite. Just in time to set us up next year for another 4 month winter ridge.

Yeah, going to suck with no concerts this summer. But everything else I believe will go back to normal. Typical beach days, parties, BBQ, etc... The worst will be Bills games with no fans. The best Bills team in 20 years and most likely we aren't going to be able to go to games. I was going to get seasons this year too. =(