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Totally agree. We're down in Hilton Head and the mostly private beaches here have been busy the whole time. Only 25 cases here with a population of 40k.

I in no way encourage violence...whether or not these Tweets encourage that, I guess we'll find out, although I'm pretty sure he's not calling people to kill people - as much as I'm pretty sure Pres Obama wasn't calling on people to kill police. If I were Pres Trump, I would've worded it differently. Something like: "Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd amendment, vote the Democrats out!"

Did I say that? Not at all. I just showed that what you and other Pres Trump dis-likers state as crazy or WTF or whatever, other Presidents have done. Just offering perspective. For some reason, Pres Trump-dislikers seems to think he's the only one that has done/said things they don't like, yet it's somehow 'acceptable' if their party's elect do the same. Was likely the same scenario when Pres Obama was in office.

This really isn't much different than when Pres Obama encouraged and supported the BLM protests after Treyvon Martin: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-protests-police-m https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-movement-as-protests-heat-up/ Also, his comments about Treyvon didn't help either...basically started the BLM movement and violence against police tended to increase after this.

Not to make this political, but from 2008-2016 there was a pretty strong separation trend of each wealth category. I don't see how the Pres Obama helped African Americans during his tenure (although the slope of the 90% decreased from 2010-13, then increased a little from 2013-16). Also wondering what that huge drop in the 1% was from 1996-2001 - maybe it was Y2K and silicon valley crash? Enron?

Here's my take on what really happened: China has been trying to become a leader in virology (along with viral weaponizing) and have multiple research labs around the country testing all sorts of germs. Unfortunately, they don't have the proper safety protocols in these labs and someone contracted COVID-19 (patient zero) and started shedding it before symptoms were present. As it spread, the Chinese government was made aware and attempted to contain it quickly, however, there were local doctors who were aware and knew what was happening. They tried to convey, but were quickly silenced - as it would be a VERY bad look to the rest of the world (that China was out-of-control with this thing). So, they decided to continue trying to contain, but soon realized there was no stopping it, within China. At that point, they knew it was going to disrupt their economy, and I believe THAT was the time the Chinese leadership decided to let thing virus out (by stalling) so that the rest of the world's economies would be at parity dealing with it. To them, it's worth the 200k+ lives lost in other countries, to save their own economy in order to reach their Made in China 2025 plan.

While its people were on the streets, probably. They are definitely lying. If not, I hate to think what they really did.

They sure did. I can totally understand the decision to halt funding pending an investigation.

I'm very curious about this as well. My whole family got RSV in January...then a few weeks later (late-Feb), the kids got 102ish fevers for about 2 days. I got a something at the same time and my wife really struggled with something for about a week. In retrospect, we'd like to get tested for antibodies...just to see. We are Type B and O as well, which is supposedly less susceptible and with less severe symptoms.

Someone needs to edit that body slam with a picture of COVID-19.

More info about RNA virus mutation - another reason mutation isn't always bad: hhmi.org/news/the-flu-viruss-ability-to-mutate-may-sometimes-be-its-downfall The team also combined several genomic technologies to identify mutations that had cropped up as the virus multiplied within the cells. Cells’ responses to infection seemed to be related to the genomic quirks of the infecting virus, the team found. For example, an unmutated virus was more likely to produce lots of viral RNA and less likely to trigger the cellular alarm. Mutated viruses generally had the opposite effect. “That’s where the virus’s high mutation rate becomes a double-edged sword,” Bloom says. “Some of its mutations inevitably foil its hiding mechanisms.” If someone is infected by mutated viruses, the immune system might more easily gain the upper hand than in someone infected by unmutated viruses, he says. “So the initial variation might help determine how an infection proceeds and why the flu affects people so differently,” says Bloom. What’s next is to verify the finding in animals, he says, to see what happens when a full immune system is present.

They said it's likely that won't happen..."Though there’s the very rare chance a virus could mutate to be more aggressive, if anything, RNA viruses are more likely to mutate into a weaker version." https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-mutation-and-covid-19#Mutations-arent-making-it-deadlier

Researchers have discovered what they described as a "significant" mutation of the novel coronavirus, which they believe "raises the alarm" that the search for a vaccine could become "futile" down the line. The study, published on the biorxiv.org repository, notes researchers were able to analyze a sample of SARS-CoV-2 from India on January 27 and found a mutation that "leads to weaker receptor binding capability." Although this is received as 'bad' news, it's actually good news as this virus may be well on its way to mutate out of infectiousness. This would be the best case scenario.

So what if you're flying into ROC?

I sure hope the world holds China leadership responsible for withholding critical information from the world. Isn't the first time: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92479/ And the WHO isn't helping: https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-truth-behind-world-health-organisation-puzzling-wet-markets-decision-110140700.html Sad.

The hope is that COVID doesn't mutate a lot. If this is the case, a vaccine could last up to 5 years with 'boosters'. Also, I believe we're seeing some significant advances in vaccine development which will further mitigate the seasonality of COVID (and the Flu, and RSV). There's even research for a vaccine to prevent colorectal cancer. Exciting times ahead.

"His supporters are delusional - plain and simple. Absolutely no better than those in Nazi Germany or Mussolini's Italy who supported their regimes but didn't fancy themselves to be "evil". Don't like the name calling?" Normally I ignore absurd posts like this, but I'll bite. No, actually I don't like your name calling and insults. It's immature and quite ridiculous. Calling 50% of the country "no better than those in Nazi Germany or Mussolini's Italy" is just insanity beyond how bad you think our POTUS is. It's so far-fetched and exaggerated that it only emboldens his supporters even more so to vote for him. I could care less what you think of him, besides, I didn't vote for a man, I voted for his policies - and those don't include mass exterminations.

Good, as the States should....

100% that China's #'s are deliberately low. The Chinese government will pay heavily for the havoc they've caused - watch and see how the world turns on them after this is over. I hope their government fails and their people prosper.

I totally agree. The bigger issue is the kids spreading it to their parents & grandparents. If we can get those 5-minute tests widely available by the summer, that would be a huge step in identifying the hot spots.

Why is he a "tool"? He's not too far off. This is CLEARY much more deadly for post-school aged kids. And if you dig into the data for deaths under 25 or even 45, there are significant percentages of an existing condition. Now is it prudent to send kids back to school this current year? I'd say no, let them finish this year home-schooled and restart in Sept. Data as of April 10, 2020 Age group COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3 Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3 Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4 Population5 All ages 4,984 511,424 89 36,423 2,341 4,541 327,167,434 Under 1 year 0 2,727 65 19 0 9 3,848,208 1–4 years 1 552 76 27 1 26 15,962,067 5–14 years 1 809 73 26 0 34 41,075,169 15–24 years 6 4,638 81 87 2 35 42,970,800 25–34 years 46 9,624 86 257 21 106 45,697,774 35–44 years 129 13,847 89 538 44 160 41,277,888 45–54 years 291 26,652 80 1,416 119 375 41,631,699 55–64 years 624 64,579 86 4,247 269 816 42,272,636 65–74 years 1,085 100,368 91 7,397 456 976 30,492,316 75–84 years 1,372 126,612 92 10,139 691 1,025 15,394,374 85 years and over 1,429 161,016 88 12,270 738 979 6,544,503

The good is that the 2nd time isn't as severe. Just like getting the flu vaccine and then contracting the flu virus. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it, it mitigates the symptoms.

This is fairly common with other viruses like RSV. Symptoms are typically much less severe which means the antibodies are there and working. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160421145747.htm

RNA/DNA vaccines are the way to go. We need them perfected quickly to get this crap behind us. It's very promising biotech and something that will dramatically impact the seasonal flu as well. I don't think research funding will be an issue anymore. Quick little blurb about one: https://contemporaryclinic.pharmacytimes.com/preventive-care/dna-flu-vaccine-potential-for-universal-protection

That article linked by LakeEffect would support the first scenario - and the most likely, in my non-professional opinion. Hopefully it's not autoimmune, but that would be leading to more sepsis deaths - don't think we're seeing that in the data. Scenario #2 is freaky, but I would imagine autopsies would be showing evidence of this.