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It always bums me out to see a rainstorm in the heart of winter. We only got 3 legit months for chances of snow. It can rain anytime of the yr, just not these 3 months.

9 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

The average Feb snowfall for the last 15 years at Detroit has been 18.2". Literally double the 20th century average. That includes 9 of the 15 years being 20+ and several in the 25-32" range. Looks like this Feb is finally proving things can go wrong. Look out March, the lions will roar.

We're due for a warm end of winter/start of spring, march and April the past few years has been colder, and not much snow has come with it. 

6 hours ago, Hoosier said:

GFS keep trying to do a little something with the system right after the cutter.  Doesn't seem to have a ton of support though.

It's weird how it transfers when the secondary is in northern Indiana. It has that look of the nye storm that drilled central michigan.  I always forget what year that was. It was a compact strong low, with impressive deformation snows.

Models all still have a storm around the 10th that has some cold sector precip. Canadian looks best but they've all been flopping back n forth. 

9 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

You are NOTHING like beavis. For one thing you spend winters in Florida   and don't like cold. Cold and snowcover are far more important to him than snowstorms, he is very similar to me.  Oh and by the even tho theres been more than 2" of snow on the ground for 2 weeks, 2"+ depth plus some cold (i forget what) is the threshold for some sort of beavis winter day stat he concocted. So today is definitely a beavis approved day here.

Why do you think I spend my winters in florida? One major reason was I got sick of the lack of big snows lol. Ghd 1 storm played a big part. Plus after multiple surgeries and almost 40 now, my body feels better down here. I don't mind cold just not the shit below 20. I'll def fly back for snow but haven't once in the last 5 winters. That should tell you something.

I seen the cold up there today but kinda weird how short lived it'll be as you'll be right back into almost 40 tomorrow. Usually when it gets cold,  it sticks around for atleast a few days

12 hours ago, Chicago Storm said:

fakest rant ever.

Was it fake because it wasn't as long as beavis' rants? Sorry the quality could've been better but I got sun burnt today and exhausted 

I'm with Beavis. Every year has the chance to be a good snowy winter, regardless of climo, and being a snow weenie, recent years have sucked. It just gets annoying when people come back with well with what you're expecting, it's not climo. Well not having anything  big to track this winter or previous winters isn't like our climo either so let us snow lovers complain without the annoying climo comeback. Yea sure your stats make your point but still we got 3/4 months to get snow and when we don't it sucks, period lol. So let us complain, and we won't make fun of your winter snow walks with 2 inches on the ground.

The storm on the gfs for the 10th is starting to look very similar to the Jan 25th storm, with a little less cold air to work with.

Canadian/euro have just a weak warm  storm.

3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I like the cold. Now....the -30 wind chills while I was out shoveling Dec 23? No. I thought it would be fun but it was legit hard to breathe. But moderate cold I love and find invigorating. Took a winter walk yesterday. Snow wise the past 5 seasons have not sucked here, except 2018-19. They haven't been great, but haven't sucked. Maybe other parts of the subforum, but im sick of hearing that average to above average snow seasons "suck". The frustration of this snow season, especially to mid Jan, is what a sucky snow season is. Not not getting wall to wall snow
2017-18: 62.5" above
2018-19: 31.9" below
2019-20: 43.8" avg
2020-21: 47.0" slightly above
2021-22: 47.9" slightly above

As always our criteria for suckiness is different, and you're satisfaction for average. As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.

3 hours ago, luckyweather said:

 

guilty

I do enjoy around -5 to 15 or so degrees a lot. I wouldn’t want to live somewhere like that all year but a couple good stretches like that in the winter months are thrilling for me. When you have a good layering system the cold isn’t much of a factor in comfort. Love when the lakes freeze over good and solid and I can get out and ice skate, don’t sweat as bad Nordic skiing, and it keeps the normies off the ski hills. As well, nothing better than a quiet winter mid day hike around 5-10 degrees. There’s just an entirely different vibe.

Getting down below about -5 I get into the law of diminishing returns, harder to layer to stay warm, cars less reliable, harder on the wildlife, etc. I’m okay with not dipping down into the extremes too often but it is nice to get a -20 low every few years for a day or two.

 

Well I guess it takes some kind of weenieness to find minus temps thrilling, but hey different strokes. I also enjoy winter sports and those arent very fun with single digit temps. Most of the legit snowstorms, atleast around metro detroit happen when temps are 25-30. Usually temps colder than that means suppression, unless we're in a clipper pattern. Cold and dry are useless to me and just find it hard to believe someone actually likes frigid cold lol.

15 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Oh, for sure last Winter was FAR better. I'm not a skier, but a friend of mine went to just the other day and said he had fun. I don't think there's any disagreement that this is just plain and simple not a good Winter overall.  The trolling posts (even though by mostly one person) do get old though. Especially when last Winter was a good Winter for the cold lovers, and we are a few years removed from our snowiest decade on record.

There are cold lovers? I dont think anyone enjoys single digit temps, or the cold.  I think the majority are snow lovers and the past 5 winters have sucked if you're a snow lover. There's no sugar coating it. 

1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said:

Skiing and snowboarding hills are doing just fine in Southern Michigan as well. Yeah they make plenty of additional snow, but that's needed for a deep firm base.

Really, Cromartie trolling us getting over the top. He doesn't even post about weather or snowstorms that are going on in his location, just talks about torching.

Yes, winter is disappearing because we had a mild January. Can't remember the last time we had a cold Winter  where the Great Lakes had above average ice cover. Wow. I looked, we haven't had a cold Winter with above average ice cover since...LAST WINTER!

Your month of feb that has prevented you from giving winter a grade lower than C the past few winters, looks pretty ZZzzz and mild through the first 10-12 days. Crazy there's only been one potential of 6+ to track up until this point. Atleast in past crappy winters, there's been atleast some threats to track that didn't work out

18 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said:

Bust

A storm has been consistently on the gfs around Feb 10. That's your storm.

No groundhog day event this year it seems. More often than not when there's plenty of cold around, there's no storm around. By the time the next low approaches the region, the colder air has retreated and we see the se ridge flex its muscles and its congrats msp all over again...

Dtw looks to miss out on the first bands, but could be in for a surprise for the second batch. Looks like after this, gonna be in a cold suppression pattern, the worst. While dec/jan sucked, atleast it was warmer. Cold n dry is the worst. 

Its a bummer detroits gonna miss out, would've been cool to see a snowstorm on top of decent snowcover. It's always a tough thing to pull off.

7 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Well, we’ve also got old uncle Ukie on our side… 

Gem is even further south than the rgem.

it doesn't look like the 12z rgem is gonna back down on its further south location of the banding, but it does have a more NE orientation once its get over by dtw.  Hopefully the bands can stay on an east to west line trough michigan. It would be a bummer to only get an inch while areas just 30 miles to the NW see 8-10. seen that horror picture too many times.

1 hour ago, Chicago WX said:

Going to need the RGEM to score the coup. 6z still solid for N IL. Otherwise, everything is wagons north again (6z Nams, 6z HRRR, and 9z RAP, and 6z GFS slightly north). Think everyone had an idea this would go a bit further north in the end, but some of these moves are stupid in the past 24 hours. Still time for more changes I guess...

In the past the Canadian had been better at depicting these waves dropping south out of Canada. I think models are struggling where the baroclinic zone sets up after this first wave rolls through today. They should get a better idea by tonights runs. I think the bands will settle further south, like the rgem/gfs are showing 

3 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

What's more rare for DTW and/or the N burbs, a true 12+ or a pair of 6's?

Equally unlikely.

Gfs consistently dropping another 6-8 along 96/696 through Michigan. Pretty rare to get back to back 6 inchers in a matter of a week around these parts.

2 hours ago, WestMichigan said:

3.0" from 0.14" of liquid at GRR.  That isn't not the concrete/slush many places had yesterday.  Not a lot but at least it is white outside now.

Based on the radar yesterday, I'm surprised grr didn't get more. Either way grr is always top notch in their graphics before and after a storm. They issued a snowfall observed map this morning not only for their area but all of southern Michigan. It's almost like they include metro detroit in their forecast and total maps because they know how bad dtx is. Well I thank them for being a high quality office.

27 minutes ago, AWMT30 said:

5.4" as of 218 here in Canton thinking 1-3" more. Solid damn storm 

Think we're gonna see a nice 10 lolli in macomb, nice band looks to have parked overhead as the low rotates. 

4 minutes ago, Frog Town said:

Bust here in Toledo with 3" so far.  Looking like maybe another inch.  Antecedent conditions were just a killer plus sitting at 33 degrees for the entire event.  Hard to overcome a January like we had.  

Short term models yesterday were first to have the better bands just to the nw of toledo. Just a tough location for bigger snows.

Neighbor says 4 inches. Based on radar, could be 4 more. I miss the snow. Fomo is real