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12 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Warm spring, and I still had some snow piles around town in June.

Nuts.

Yeah if that had been more like a 2018 or 2020 spring we prob would’ve had regular pack into the 3rd week of April. 
 

6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Assuming a high ACE/La Nina, really the only subpar season is 1998-1999...and once you get above 200 ACE they are all decent...2005-2006 probably being the floor.

Yeah we def want to root for high ACE. But even if it isn’t, I won’t be terrified of La Niña. I’d like to see some changes in the N PAC in terms of getting ridging more poleward but we can get good La Niña even without a ton of blocking. 2007-08 and 2016-17 are two relatively recent examples. 

It’s pretty easy to empirically check these spring claims. The mean temp increase for April/May since the middle 20th century is about 2F. 
 

We’ve definitely warmed. But in shorter timelines it will be a lot noisier. If you start from 12-15 years ago, then we have cooled in spring because we had some furnace springs like 2010, 2012, and even 2015 was a warm one after the historically cold Jan-Mar period. 
 

For anyone who grew up in the 1970s/1980s/1990s, they will remember colder springs because that period was colder than any period recently, individual years not withstanding. Unless you’re memory is etched in 1991 which was a record warm spring in many spots. 

There’s def some support for one last blockier pattern starting the 2nd week of March….we’ll see if it actually materializes. A March big dog would at least get this winter out of the bottom rung if we could improbably pull one off. 

8 minutes ago, dendrite said:

More warmth. More precipitation. Sometimes you lose big. Sometimes you win big.

So far it’s been a tradeoff that is worth it. The bigger ticket events and big ticket winters are enough to outweigh the ratters. But certainly a few years of underachieving can test people’s resolve.  

I’m not buying it yet but it would be ironic if when many of us are saying “just bring on the 70s”, we get our best period of winter with multiple threats with highs in Quebec. Something we haven’t been able to buy for 2-3 years. 

6 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

PDII. What a good event. 

Originally forecasted to whiff SNE about 4 days out. Really trended north big time inside of 60-72 hours. 

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Absolutely have not had delayed leaf out and green up. Not inland . Leaves out all recent years prior to Mayorch 1st

Yeesh dude…did you memory-hole the 2016-2020 period? I think like 4 out of 5 of those were fooking nuclear crater landscape near 5/1. Awful springs. We did have some better ones recently like 2021 and 2023. 

Was actually a nice day to throw the football in the driveway with my oldest. It was around 34-35 when we were out but it felt warmer in the sun…definite March feel to the landscape 

1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I'm fine with just moving on at this point. If something pops up, great, but I'm done looking at long range charts and chasing.

Unless it’s a major event, I’m out too. But obviously there’s still like 5-6 weeks left for something like that. 
 

The problem with “being out” in New England in snow threats and cold in favor of warmth is that it rarely ever acquiesces to that particular demand. 2012 was a rare exception. Usually it’s mostly a shit sandwich which then makes me start rooting for snow stat-padder events because it beats 41F mist with a “nice” day being 54F self-destructing sunshine day. 

1 minute ago, George001 said:

I’m hoping we can get winter to feel like winter the next couple of years. I’m not asking for an epic winter with 70-80+ inches of snow, just a normal winter with average snow and average temps. It has been terrible with all the warmth.

We’ll need a wholesale hemispheric change where we establish a good cryospheric base from the lakes to S Canada…hopefully we’re able to do that next winter but no guarantees. 

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

I’ll stop because I’ve been in eeyore this whole day. But this just really sucks. Those who have it, enjoy it. Including Cape Breton…I mean Cape Cod lol. I can accept a bad winter, but precision porking two years in a row has beaten me.

BOS to your area and even up to Cape Ann and then back into the Foxborough area has gotten porked relative to climo pretty bad the last 2 winters. Even worse than most other areas. S CT had been way worse previously but they got a bit of redemption this month. My area has been pretty bad too but at least I got 10” in the 1/7 storm. 
 

But some of that is def payback for the jackpots we were pulling out of our rears for years even in blah patterns. 

50 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

It's been a wintery week with snow in the air the last two days, why do you want it to end?

If we can’t grab that 2/24 storm, then we’re looking at pretty boring weather with temps in the 30s/40s. The snow OTG the last week or so has been nice but since we didn’t get warning criteria, it’s just slowly melting/sublimating and the whole thing is just more of a spring vibe than deep winter. 
 

Im all for big storms but this sucks. I’m well aware enough of our climo though to know that we’re not going to get consistently nice outdoor weather for a while. 

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Nasty one there. Real nice ones heading south of pike near Will now. Might be fringed here.

Just whiffed here…we got a coating. I bet 5 miles south got crushed. 

Maybe we can grab a 70 in early March looking at ensembles. Weeklies go cold again after that so I’m not expecting 2012…though at this point, I would absolutely take 2012 if offered. 
 

Only thing that would keep me on the winter train is if we can get a big dog threat from a bowling ball or something. 

Not interested in this threat at all right now. It could change but todays runs don’t inspire any confidence. 
 

1 minute ago, weathafella said:

Well I witnessed 40+ in the sierras so no but it fell on top of a deep pack which was fortified by 2-3” seemingly daily for weeks before the event.  When winters were great….

Yeah you saw one of the best if not the GOAT in 1966 for that area. Pack that deep is rare in Ithaca. The nickel and dime events though were not. 

SW CT special…someone could pull 2-4” there. Hoping for enough scraps further north for an inch. 

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Feb 13? LOL. It's amazing how bad the antecedent airmasses have been the last two years.

Yeah can’t buy a good setup….but who knows. Maybe we’ll get the unicorn bombing out that makes the airmass less of a concern. We’re due for an April ‘97…not trying to get greedy. 

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah it tries to get incorporated last minute. Will need that.

I think I’d like the evolution better if the  southern vort went east a bit and then got captured by the northern stream digging and pulled back NW. That would create a cold CCB

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Great airmass in place with the freezing line over a moose den.

Northern stream is cold. Feels like you’d need that inserted into the system at some point to turn it into something major. 

5 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

you actually do have a lot in place... vort moving out of the W US, anomalous PNA ridging, a weak but present Davis Strait block to displace the TPV, and an Atlantic trough that almost provides a sort of pseudo 50/50 low

Only thing we don’t have is a good antecedent airmass (surprise!) but obviously a big dynamic system could overcome that. Airmass could improve some as we get closer….the setup could look a bit different. People will have to remember this is D7-8

Euro def starting to look more interesting for something higher end….long time to go obviously but good to see many of the pieces in place 

Euro ticked north again. 1-2” from much of the southern half of CT 

21 minutes ago, ma blizzard said:

Not a bad look .. 

ha…TTs of 55. Could get thundersnow on that sounding. Nothing else supports that look though so I’m expecting it to disappear as we get closer. 

That def a bit more interesting with a ULL that deep on the GFS. That threat is still a long ways out so there is time for it to look a lot more threatening. Keeping expectations low but there is longwave support for something.