WHEATCENT

Canadian  has been quite consistent in giving most of Western Lake County 8-12

hmm

i just wish we could at least get some lake effect with what looks like decent cold air the next 10 days aside from 36 hours this weekend with more 40s and rain. 

Earthquakes less rare than snow imagine that 

1 hour ago, buckeye said:

 

Yea, it's a head scratcher, can't understand why.

its actually funny this is being discussed as the other day I was curious and having form identity crisis   My location ~25 miles East of Cleveland is closer  to Buffalo (NY threads) or Pittsburgh then say Detroit let alone Chicago 

My Location to Buffalo 172 Miles

My Location to Detroit 197 Miles

My location to Columbus 169 Miles 

My Location to Pittsburgh 150 Miles

My Location to Chicago 373 Miles

my county in Blue 

and then below 0  lmao 

new EURO hate being in the bullseye 180 hours out....

Northern Ohio Bullseye 180 hours out. i hate it. 

models showing one of the warmest Christmas days for CLE lmao 63 on euro 60 on gfs haven't seen that since 1982 

also another torch at the end of the euro mid 50s for the 28th on both gfs and euro lmao

60 on christmas now lmao just looked at latest EURO 

i'll take what the 18z gfs is serving for Cleveland haha 

seems like temps over performed today low 70s at least here along the lake

On 10/6/2021 at 2:46 PM, NEOH said:

Yep... hopefully we torch right through October to keep the lake warm. Temps are sitting in the upper 60's to around 70. 

 

Where can I find those Lake Surface temp maps? 

highs in the 30s with a mix in may. hard pass. 

mentor at 9 inches.......i'd be excited in January......but now the warm lake 

This Mornings GFS is crazy over us lol

no lake breeze today, currently 84 half mile from lake erie shore 

no lake breeze today, all the way to 84 half mile from the lake water

go figure that during the artic outbreak in February we were one of the warmest spots in the midwest, and now we struggle to warm. temps trending down even for the weekend especially along the lake  

supposed to be mid 60's next friday, now mid 30s 

11 minutes ago, beavis1729 said:

Ugh...the whiplash of winter to non-winter is so hard to take.  If it happens in late March, ok...but it shouldn't happen during DJF.  But every year, it does...it's just a matter of when.  It's like people are ok with 3 weeks of good winter, and then no more. 

Wish we could have gradual transitions and more consistent winter, instead of "all or nothing".

We got about 25" of snow in 3 weeks, with an average temp of around 10F...then the next 3 weeks will see 0" of snow with an average temp around 35F.  It's like a switch flips, even though it's still Feb.  Why can't there be a gradual transition...like maybe we get 10-15" instead of 25" in the next 3 weeks...and an average temp around 20F instead of 10F??

This is why our winter climo is so frustrating.  We have 3 weeks of good winter...but DJF is a 13-week period.  We work so hard to get wintry weather for a decent period...the lakes and ponds froze pretty well...then when winter finally sets in completely, it just vaporizes.  This doesn't happen in the summer.  In JJA, it's either "mostly summer" or "total summer" on any given day.  But in winter, it often ranges from "no winter" to "good winter"...and it just switches on a dime.  There is no room for error, or gadual transitions; any "above average temp" period melts snow and stops lakes from freezing, even during the heart of winter.  It just sucks.  So frustrated that there's no consistency.  We've lost nearly 18" of dense snow in 7 days...winter just disappeared.  I know it's late in the winter...but it's still Feb...and these episodes keep reinforcing our bad climo, which I can't bring myself to accept.  It's not really winter when the normal high in early Dec and late Feb is around 40F.

It's so emotionally draining.  It's always something.  It's like we have 6 weeks of "core winter"...but you can't even count on that, as evidenced by the 50s/60s that occurred in each of the past two Decembers, near Christmas...when daylight is the shortest. Before Dec 15th, the lake is too warm, and the source region hasn't cooled off enough.  Then, after Feb 1st, the source region is colder...but then you have to hope for clouds if the temp is > 25F so that snow doesn't melt, because the sun angle is getting higher.  And you need the nights to be clear, to get radiational cooling and preserve the snow...and have a lower start to the warm-up during the following day.  My point is that it shouldn't need to be this difficult.  If we actually had winter from Dec 1 - Jan 10, it would have been easier to take what has happened over the past week.  We basically had 5 weeks of winter this season...with the last 3 weeks being really good.  Because there have only been 5 weeks of winter, I want winter to continue into March, to make up for the lack of winter in December.  I value duration over intensity...13 weeks of each season, not 5.  Summer is good when the calendar says it, Fall is good when the calendar says it...but let's have seasons in seasons.  Temps above freezing in the daytime is not winter. 

57 degrees here today in Northern Ohio and outside the failed storm  that actually hit toldeo and indiana and only dropped like 5 inches here in CLE earlier in Feb,  I feel this. it was in the 20's and teens here for 10 days barley any snow, bare ground,   and before that  period, the last snow we had was 9 inches in two days that melted immediately after Christmas. and since i'm right on the lake we got 9 inches on December 1st but it never got below 35 while it fell and was gone in 2 days. one of our local mets posted that we've never not had snow in march (we average like 12 inches) and so far the models are warm and zzz though 10 days.....

nice thump of snow and trending colder for monday morning 

4 minutes ago, rochesterdave said:

Radar shows moderate snow. Reality shows nothing. 

Been doing this in Far North East Ohio all morning. 

Radar shows heavy snow but isn't verified by looking out the window lol 

Typical LE miss for me 

Spring time